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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Oldtimer - No I am not a BYU fan. However Demin has improved as the season went on and would not be a bad pick at all if he fell to the T-wolves pick which is likely around 18-20. He has good size and passing skills especially for his age. His shooting was trash, but has improved as the season went on.
 
I've been disappointed in Ace Bailey lately. not sure what the issue is, but he's been pretty bad for about at least a month - maybe more. he hasn't been as bad or as invisible as Cody Williams down the stretch last year, but his play reminds me of that. At this point, due to potential, I think you still draft him top 5, but you might wait until 5. his defense and effort has been consistently stellar, but you are drafting him to be a scorer and my biggest question is whether he will ever be able to do that efficiently.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
It's helped a few, like Benedict Mathurin and Franz Wagner, who went lottery after their 2nd year of school when they otherwise would have been later FRPs.

There have been some for whom the decision to return or delay the draft a year has backfired. That Czech guy Roko Prkacin got hurt and fell off the map when he could have been a FRP. Overall, returning to school probably hurt Filipowski's draft stock, though there were other factors at play for him slipping to the 2nd round. You see how nearly everyone has forgotten about that Spanish forward Baba Miller at this point, when he was once considered a late 1st - mid 2nd-round pick.
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Were those guys projected first-round picks before returning tho?
 
seattlejazzfan said:
I've been disappointed in Ace Bailey lately. not sure what the issue is, but he's been pretty bad for about at least a month - maybe more. he hasn't been as bad or as invisible as Cody Williams down the stretch last year, but his play reminds me of that. At this point, due to potential, I think you still draft him top 5, but you might wait until 5. his defense and effort has been consistently stellar, but you are drafting him to be a scorer and my biggest question is whether he will ever be able to do that efficiently.
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He's going to be a great conundrum
 
KqWIN said:
Ace had 2-3 weeks of good basketball and sucked for the rest of the season. He has a lot of talent, but I really don’t like his BBIQ or intangibles. Might drop to #6 for me.
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He easily has the widest range of outcomes for any player in the draft as he could either clearly be the best player in the draft or out of the league entirely. Drives me crazy.
 
NUMBERICA said:
He easily has the widest range of outcomes for any player in the draft as he could either clearly be the best player in the draft or out of the league entirely. Drives me crazy.
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He's the classic guy that gets gms fired... either because they passed on him and he's awesome or because they pick him and he struggles. If he hits you can hear Bill Simmons saying "yeah of course the athletic wing shot maker is amazing like duh" or "of course the guy who's brain is broken isn't going to live up to the hype... duh".
 
One thing I'd like to know is how coachable Ace is and what his intangibles are. I haven't heard anything bad about him, but I do get the impression that he doesn't have a natural feel for the game and nobody has ever told him how to play the right way. Even if a lot of his poor play is due to his situation, I don't think it's as easy as flipping a switch and I'm not sure you can get rid of all the bad habits even through coaching/work ethic.

He's probably going to end up like a Wiggins/Barnes. Fake good scorer or decent role player with attitude and role adjustment.
 
KqWIN said:
One thing I'd like to know is how coachable Ace is and what his intangibles are. I haven't heard anything bad about him, but I do get the impression that he doesn't have a natural feel for the game and nobody has ever told him how to play the right way. Even if a lot of his poor play is due to his situation, I don't think it's as easy as flipping a switch and I'm not sure you can get rid of all the bad habits even through coaching/work ethic.

He's probably going to end up like a Wiggins/Barnes. Fake good scorer or decent role player with attitude and role adjustment.
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I like the MP Jr. comp as long as the shot comes along. Wiggins has motor issues that I think Ace may not have. If we landed 4 I would be relieved to have VJ slide to us... I'd be excited and nervous if we took Ace. I would understand the pick though. Its a good bet... I think.
 
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