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Handlogten's Heros said:
I like the MP Jr. comp as long as the shot comes along. Wiggins has motor issues that I think Ace may not have. If we landed 4 I would be relieved to have VJ slide to us... I'd be excited and nervous if we took Ace. I would understand the pick though. Its a good bet... I think.
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I hated the MPJ comp initially. Ace's offense started out 99% mid range iso's and nothing off the ball. MPJ is an exclusively off the ball player. As the season went on Ace started shooting more 3's and making more of them (and his FT's) so it makes more sense....but I still struggle to classify as a guy who will be completely off the ball and an elite shooter. I still feel as though his actual ability to score on his own is elite and his three point shooting is just decent....so there's kind of a direct mismatch in style of play there. I think he will have to play more like MPJ in the NBA, but if you're drafting him I wouldn't expect him to be an elite shooter and would be betting on the shot creation/making.

About his motor, I guess I have mixed reviews on that. He has moments where he definitely locks in, but I would have to disagree with those who say it is consistent. He does the salient things that show effort, but he is the opposite of a little things guy. And I guess when we're talking about the little things that help you win, it takes some intelligence as well. I can't tell if he's not playing hard or if he's just not recognizing situations.
 
My comps for Ace are Brandon Ingram and GG Jackson. Which… I mean, we could’ve drafted GG with the 28th pick or sent a garbage pick for Ingram. But sometimes that archetype is Kevin Durant? You gotta believe in your organization’s player development to be high on him and I think the Jazz do a good job there. I think.
 
Ace will continue to be a top-4 prospect because he has the potential to be nearly unguardable. He can shoot over the top of defenders off the dribble and make tough shots. That skill alone makes him a top prospect.

In the NBA, he'll get more space and repetition from spots on the floor where he's comfortable. He'll also get more open lanes to drive the ball.
 
If someone were to ask me to guess when the last time a white dude burn in America was the number 1 pick I would have guessed like 30 years or something.
Fun fact: the last time a white American born player was taken number one was some dude I never heard of in 1977. 48 years ago!

Flagg is very very special.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Ace will continue to be a top-4 prospect because he has the potential to be nearly unguardable. He can shoot over the top of defenders off the dribble and make tough shots. That skill alone makes him a top prospect.

In the NBA, he'll get more space and repetition from spots on the floor where he's comfortable. He'll also get more open lanes to drive the ball.
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It would be enough if he was an elite elite elite shooter, but he's just not. He's good but not great at shooting.

And he doesn't get nearly as much elevation as MPJ or Durant.

I think he's clearly worse than post third back surgery MPJ because his jumpshot and ability to get up jumpshots are definitely worse.

I think a poor man's post third back surgery MPJ is probably his best comparison. Like the 20th best PF in the NBA. He just cannot create good shots at all. His first step is so awful that it's hard to see him having any on-ball potential.
 
KqWIN said:
I hated the MPJ comp initially. Ace's offense started out 99% mid range iso's and nothing off the ball. MPJ is an exclusively off the ball player. As the season went on Ace started shooting more 3's and making more of them (and his FT's) so it makes more sense....but I still struggle to classify as a guy who will be completely off the ball and an elite shooter. I still feel as though his actual ability to score on his own is elite and his three point shooting is just decent....so there's kind of a direct mismatch in style of play there. I think he will have to play more like MPJ in the NBA, but if you're drafting him I wouldn't expect him to be an elite shooter and would be betting on the shot creation/making.

About his motor, I guess I have mixed reviews on that. He has moments where he definitely locks in, but I would have to disagree with those who say it is consistent. He does the salient things that show effort, but he is the opposite of a little things guy. And I guess when we're talking about the little things that help you win, it takes some intelligence as well. I can't tell if he's not playing hard or if he's just not recognizing situations.
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Fair... I guess I think Ace (or maybe anyone) will have the ability to lock in more than Wiggins lol.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Royce and Ingles
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I think Bogey and Conley also panned out well (maybe not as well as hoped obviously). DL definitely had his warts but in general both Quin and DL both too rigid/complacent. Became a bad combo.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think Ace has a relatively high floor. As 6'10" legit shooter, I think he will be at least a rotation player.
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i guess i'm not convinced he's a legit shooter. which is a 180 from what i would have said 2 or 3 months ago. i mean, he can shoot, but can he really shoot. he reminds me a lot of Key, tbh, a 6'9" version. Key can shoot. sometimes. most of the time not all that accurately.
 
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