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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Tre has the potential on that end of he is coached up and puts the effort in.
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Unfortunately, as we saw with Mitchell, effort is 90% of defense. So if he isn't showing the effort now, why would he later. Mitchell came out of college touted as a defensive powerhouse. What he showed was the opposite. Maybe this guy will gain a sudden appreciation for the work required to be a good defender, odds are he won't. So we shouldn't bank on that if we draft him. That is like the girl who gets infatuated with a guy with a lazy streak and she convinces herself she can change him once they are married. Yeah, it ain't gonna happen. He is going to be a couch potato from day 1. Maybe isn't a plan. Draft the guy if we feel he is the BPA, but don't kid ourselves that he might become a 2-way player. Draft him based on who he is right now and the potential to improve, but not on the hope he becomes a defensive force sometime in the future.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah but Tre has elite 2-guard size and he's an actual elite shooter.
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My worry is what does he do with that elite size?

Not guard anyone, thats for sure. Get into the paint and finish? Nope.

So he's a long, one dimensional dude. I think hes a dude early on that puts up big numbers that wow's people, but eventually basketball people realize it doesnt do anything for winning. See other Trae, Young.
 
Bodhi said:
My worry is what does he do with that elite size?

Not guard anyone, thats for sure. Get into the paint and finish? Nope.

So he's a long, one dimensional dude. I think hes a dude early on that puts up big numbers that wow's people, but eventually basketball people realize it doesnt do anything for winning. See other Trae, Young.
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Trae isn't an elite shooter and doesn't have the size to learn to defend

I think Tre's defense is bad, but not beyond the pale of being salvageable. I think playmaking is going to be a real strength and I think he learns to draw fouls and finish in the paint.

He's a no brainer to me at 5.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Trae isn't an elite shooter and doesn't have the size to learn to defend

I think Tre's defense is bad, but not beyond the pale of being salvageable. I think playmaking is going to be a real strength and I think he learns to draw fouls and finish in the paint.

He's a no brainer to me at 5.
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There are a lot of "if you squint's" in here, which could be applied to really any dude in this draft.

Also, if you cant get by people, you have a real hard time facilitating at a high level.
 
Bodhi said:
There are a lot of "if you squint's" in here, which could be applied to really any dude in this draft.

Also, if you cant get by people, you have a real hard time facilitating at a high level.
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You don't have to squint with Tre.
 
Not sure I want to draft a poor man's Collier with the 5th pick. Height/length measurements nearly identical, but Collier is bigger/stronger than Fears. Coming out of college, Collier shot better from 2pt range, 3pt range, ppg identical and Collier was a better passer/playmaker.
 
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