homeytennis
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I see that Cedric Coward is staying in the draft.
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It would be a massive development for Tre if he were to maintain his rim rate/free throw rate into the NBA, but even if he maintains, that’s a tough way to be efficient in the NBA. I think he has more efficiency gains to be made by turning his mid range 2’s into 3’s. Like stitches said, it’s very rare for players to increase those former two metrics in the NBA.
I mean... it's not impossible he improves. I just want us to know exactly what we are betting on if we pick him and not be delusional about the chance he improves in ways that would make him not just efficient scorer, but also primary offense initiator of a great offense.
If you applied Tre fan logic to every prospect then every prospect would look amazing. If every weakness was going to be solved by going to the NBA and isn't actually a weakness because they saw them do it well once, then basically every prospect is Cooper Flagg.
I think it’s quite the opposite. Why are we harping on Tre’s weaknesses and acting like he can’t improve? Let’s do it for every prospect:
People talk about Tre’s playmaking and passing, Ace is way worse. Tre had double the AST% and almost 3x the assists.
Harper’s off the dribble shooting isn’t great at all.
VJ can’t beat players off the dribble and his off the dribble shooting is terrible too. It’s hard to see his offensive role expanding in the league.
I could go on and on. It’s all about projecting with these guys.
I think you’re right. We all understand that a player like VJ needs to improve to become a higher usage guy in the NBA, but it is also true that the guys who are already high usage guys need to make some substantial improvement. I’m willing to listen to reasoning as to why one player’s development is more likely than the other, but I think we need to recognize that both situations do indeed require development.
Based on everything we know it’s easier to believe one player can improve more than others.
So the real discussion is about what is required to make improvements and how likely it is for that player to make those improvements. I don’t actually think passing is the main problem people have with Tre. The main issues are his ability to attack the basket and his defense. If he’s was able to attack the basket, I don’t think people would take too much issue with his playmaking.
I haven’t found the arguments about why Tre’s rim pressure and defense will improve that convincing tbh. The two things I hear a lot for these two things are 1) it’s easier in the NBA (which is flat out false) and 2) he has good measurables so he can play defense.
Based on what? You say “everything we know” and people regurgitate false statements over and over.
Coward officially staying in the draft.
You're drafting an elite shooter with size and athletic ability. The threat of his shot will unlock the rest of his game.
Well, Tre said he needs to work on defense and said he was playing through injuries. I think that’s a good start. Whereas Ace says he has no weaknesses.