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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Pettiford is the late first player I think has the most star upside. Hard to predict because small guards will usually fail, but he's super electric and tries on defense.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
People selectively apply things to prospects they like and unevenly to prospects they don't.

And honestly for a message board it's fine.
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I was a VJ homer then I watched a couple full games. He’s nothing what I thought. I’ve also seen 5 full Tre games. He’s not a great defender but a passable defender with the chops to be decent. He also provides rim pressure but doesn’t finish well at all.

You guys… he isn’t Key at all.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
The fact that none of the Utah media have been talking about Ace Bailey the last couple of weeks is a bit odd, considering there's a real chance he gets to #5.
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Tony Jones is saying the Jazz may draft Ace.

Andy Larsen is avoiding talking in depth about draft prospects until he watches a lot of tape because he feels embarrassed by liking Cody Williams as a prospect last year. He thinks he didn't watch enough tape on the 2024 guys and that's why he was in favor of Cody. He hasn't said anything about who the Jazz may like, but he does say he leans against Ace Bailey as a prospect but needs to watch a lot more.

Sarah Todd hasn't said anything about who the Jazz might like but she personally really dislikes Ace Bailey as a player as he's so raw and risk/reward and she feels like all of the Jazz's risk/reward plays have blown up in the last few years. She really wishes there were less risky prospects in the Jazz's range simply because it feels like the Jazz keep betting wrong.

Less nationally connected people are under the impression that Ace is a lock to go 3 or 4 and thus only talk about Tre Johnson or Egor.
 
I actually think Ace is fairly safe in the sense that there are so many ways he can find himself on a team/in a rotation that it’s very unlikely he doesn’t do any of that. I don’t think he will Micheal Beasley his way out of the league. When guys like Wiggins/Barnes fail as shot makers are can fairly easily turn into role players. With that said, also needs a lot of things to go right in order to be a star so his high end potential might be less real. I don’t see him as the risky, boom or bust kind of prospect others do.

Fears is the guy who can bust easily. There are some middle outcomes for him if his shot is just decent. But there’s just a really high standard for being a ball handler in the NBA and he doesn’t have much complimentary skill. His path to stardom is much simpler, but his path to sticking in the league is more narrow.
 
There's one prospect I want to like that I just can't and that's Drake Powell.

One of the most athletic basketball players to ever live and you can't get rebounds, blocks, or steals?

The lack of offense would be excusable if he didn't put up such putrid defensive numbers.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The question for me is if there is enough evidence to believe that they will be those guys. I think letting hopes (moreso than good evidence) lead our decision making is a trap.

If the evidence isn’t strong enough then I think building infrastructure for a star by trading down (and up) is worth considering
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The problem with this is that you are forever waiting. Straight up the Jazz are nver getting the number one pick when a sure fire all star comes available. There is no successful strategy available to us where this happens. We have to take chances on players who COULD be something if stuff falls into place.

That is the only way we have had success and it is our only way forward.
 
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