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stitches said:
I have just recently started seriously going through prospects from this draft. I don't know what the likes of Sam Vecenie is talking about when saying past the top 2 this is a normal draft. No it isn't. I like a ton of prospects past the top 2 and I have liked players throughout the whole 1st round range. This draft is in another universe compared to last year, for example, when I struggled to get to 5 players I was excited about. Good draft to have multiple picks in.
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I agree. This draft is pretty deep. Would be great if we had one more first-round pick. There may be a future star lurking somewhere between picks #11-20, or even #21-30.
 
It looks like most of this board has had VJ, Tre, and Ace in the #3-5 spots for a while now. We even have a thread here asking which one we want. Idk, I’ve looked at this thing over and over, and compared to these three, Kasparas comes out on top whenever I try to predict what these prospects will be in 4-5 years. Sure, projecting is tough, and I could be wrong, of course, but so could others who prefer VJ, Tre, or Ace over Kas.
 
Locke went over VJ today. As someone who is pretty high on him, I think he's actually spot on with the criticisms. Handle concerns are overblown. Shooting is fine when set, but no off the dribble shooting and that is problematic. Can disappear on full game film, which does not happen if you are watching condensed games. Kind of alluded to the fact that his game is more risky than Tre, which I would agree with if we are only talking about offense. Offensively, Tre is more ready and it's not a guarantee VJ ever even gets to the level Tre is currently on. But VJ has plenty of avenues to improve and he's not a lost cause.
 
I think I may be overrating VJ and Jase because I've watched so many condensed games and those two really shine in that format. Could argue that I feel for the low usage -> higher usage trap with Sheppard last (I still believe)....but Castle and McCain were both rookies who had a higher usage in the NBA vs the NCAA where they played on rosters loaded with upperclassmen.
 
The handle concerns are not overblown at all for VJ, he disappears because he can't dribble while moving quickly.

Whenever he tries to do an even semi advanced move when moving quickly, he looks like he wants to look down at the ball.

He has to become an elite shooter to be a star and end up like Jalen Williams or Derrick White where he can be a super role player who impacts winning despite his shot creation skills being extremely bleh.
 
Nique Clifford Film Review at Lunch today. I watched quite a few of his games in season, but this was a nice review:

- Very complete offensive game, he can basically do everything you would want a wing to do. dribble/pass/shoot. He can score at all 3 levels. Is a good passer and is generally smart with the ball. He gets his shot off whenever he wants, but isn't playing the most athletic guys in general in the MWC.
- Defensively he is good, but I would project him to be average in the NBA. He will have to guard much more athletic players in the NBA. He generally plays hard and has good awareness.

He's just so much more advanced than most prospects, which of course he should be since he is much older. It's hard for me to imagine him not working out in the NBA, yet it seems every year older guys with great all around games seem to miss in the NBA. Historically 23+ year olds haven't been super successful.
 
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