Conley is comparable to Kemba. He's not as quick off the dribble, but he's a better floor general and a better defender.
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Conley is comparable to Kemba. He's not as quick off the dribble, but he's a better floor general and a better defender.
Bawse Dawg
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Imagine thinking Ben Simmons is a better fit than Conley for the Jazz.
LoPo
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Kemba is a better scorer, is younger and isn't injury prone. I understand that Conley is a really solid player. I'm actually a fan of him, but he will be close to 32 when the season begins, he has been injury prone and his salary numbers are laughable.
LoPo
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If we had Simmons, our lineup would be:
PG Simmons - he would guard opposing PF's
SG Donovan - able to shoot the 3
SF Ingles - able to shoot the 3
PF O'Neale - able to shoot the 3, guard SF
C Gobert
Our shooting would be similar to last year. Instead of 2 shooters (Donovan and Ingles), 1 average shooter (Rubio) and 2 non-shooters (Favors and Gobert), we would go with 3 shooters (Donovan, Ingles and Royce) with 2 athletic freak type guys (Gobert and Simmons). It wouldn't be perfect, but it wouldn't fail. Our "pass while moving offense" with Simmons cutting with lob option Gobert would be amazing.
It's a pipe dream, but it could be imagined.
Lowery 33 right now and he's the 3rd best player on a finals team. I bet they are pissed they don't have a young PG who isn't as good and a late first instead.
Miggs
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Trae Young? Dude couldn’t guard my dead grandmother?
Paul is clearly declining and it would make no sense to get him.
Westbrook is all hype and does virtually nothing to truly make his team better.
Dragic is ****ing lol’able.
Russell is inefficient as ****.
And Lowry is old and disappears in the playoffs.
He’s top 10.
Doncic isn't a PG...
Fox and Young aren't better than Conley. None of the dudes in the arguable section have an argument other than Lowery
LoPo
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You argue these things like we are picking a player for a one game winner takes all season. You're right, I probably would take Conley over a few of those guys.
However, I like to pick my players for the present and future also with regards to their contract. Outside of Chris Paul, I take every single guy on my 10 person list AND all 4 argument guys over 32 year old, injury prone, $70 million over 2 years Mike Conley.
I don't want to give up 2 years of cap room, a 1st rounder or two, and maybe even Exum or Crowder for a guy who doesn't guarantee to make us that much better. Moving for Conley is a scared move. It's a "we can't do any better so we are going to throw a ton of assets for a guy who might make us marginally better" move.
How on Earth is trading for a good player and competing a scared move?
You can make your argument for not getting Conley, but saying **** like that just invalidates what you say.
You can make your argument for not getting Conley, but saying **** like that just invalidates what you say.
LoPo
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It's scared because it seems like we'll do it if we can't attract a big fish. Because we are trying to improve the team with the hopes that one guy is going to make all the difference even though that one guy costs us Rubio, Favors, at least one first rounder and probably Exum or Crowder too.
We shouldn't sacrifice so much for a guy who rarely plays over 70 games, is on the wrong side of prime, and is paid superstar money.
I can't believe we are debating trading major assets for guy whose agent made it very clear his client didn't want to go to Utah. Some people are saying that Houston is stuck with Chris Paul because his contract but we are talking about trading quality assets for a guy who is only 2 years younger and set to make close the same amount the next two years.
Miggs
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That’s great and all but considering we legit have a chance at one of these dudes once only every 10-20 years, we can’t really get all girly about **** and need to balls up and get Conley if we can, with the stipulation of course, that we can’t get someone better and younger first, ala Kemba or Harris.
A late first is not a major asset.
If your cap space can't get you a max free agent, it also isn't a major asset.
The Jazz tried to do the max FA thing. Acting like they are scared is stupid. They took the risk. At some point you have to push the chips in otherwise that is being scared.
And wtf do you mean cost us Rubio? You spent the entire season ******** on him. Now you want to clutch your pearls over losing him to get Conley?