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For People Who Think Hayward's Decision was Predetermined

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Players will replace them. It's not like they didnt have players ready for the opportunity to fill their shoes.

Jaylen Brown is ready to play a larger role. Terry Rozier is ready to play a larger role. Marcus Smart also. Plus they added Jayson Tatum.

And it really is simple. They added more talent. Their ceiling as a franchise is now higher than it was previously. Could there be some learning curve moments? Sure, but I think they are clearly a better team. Brad Stevens and his system really helped make some of these guys. He is probably going to do it again since he still has a top tier core to build around.

But I get it, people are bitter Hayward left and dont want to extend any credit to Boston as a franchise or their coach and his ability to make players better.
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Its sucked to lose Hayward from a talent stand point, but it was good that we did lose him from a salary stand point. Hayward was a good player, but you dont want to be paying a guy of his caliber the most on your team. I honestly did not care that we lost him. That salary issue was my first thought. Rudy was and still is the biggest reason why this is a good team. I thought we would still be good without Hayward. Donovan is just icing on the cake

So who cares. Now Boston has to deal with the fact they are hampered by his salary.
 
Gas said:
Its sucked to lose Hayward from a talent stand point, but it was good that we did lose him from a salary stand point. Hayward was a good player, but you dont want to be paying a guy of his caliber the most on your team. I honestly did not care that we lost him. That salary issue was my first thought. Rudy was and still is the biggest reason why this is a good team. I thought we would still be good without Hayward. Donovan is just icing on the cake

So who cares. Now Boston has to deal with the fact they are hampered by his salary.
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Ainge will trade him, it will be hilarious.
 
Rubashov said:
Only reason he wont is that it will make it difficult to recruit other free agents. Tatum will be the better player within two years.
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Nailed it. I THink both Tatum and Brown may have a potentially higher ceiling than Gordouche and make him redundant eventually. But Ainge did talk about feeling obliged to the guys that had elected to sign as free agents there
 
Douchebag K said:
Nailed it. I THink both Tatum and Brown may have a potentially higher ceiling than Gordouche and make him redundant eventually. But Ainge did talk about feeling obliged to the guys that had elected to sign as free agents there
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Nah the tin man will have another year, then be traded, he won't play out that contract if Ainge can move move him.
 
Douchebag K said:
Nailed it. I THink both Tatum and Brown may have a potentially higher ceiling than Gordouche and make him redundant eventually. But Ainge did talk about feeling obliged to the guys that had elected to sign as free agents there
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Rubashov said:
Only reason he wont is that it will make it difficult to recruit other free agents. Tatum will be the better player within two years.
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Douchebag K said:
Nailed it. I THink both Tatum and Brown may have a potentially higher ceiling than Gordouche and make him redundant eventually. But Ainge did talk about feeling obliged to the guys that had elected to sign as free agents there
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Ya, trading him so soon is a bad look, but give it a couple years and it wont be a big deal. But it might be hard too. With all that talent its going to be hard for Hayward to put up big numbers. Couple that with the fact that he had his big injury. That might really hurt his production, or it just looks like its the problem. He will be making way too much for any team to want to trade for him. In fact Id bet that by the last couple years of his contract he will be used as a salary dump. He will be older and I bet his game doesnt age well. He was maxing out his athleticism and he needed every bit of it to be good. This is really his last year of peak athleticism and he is starting off on a bad wheel.
 
Gas said:
Ya, trading him so soon is a bad look, but give it a couple years and it wont be a big deal. But it might be hard too. With all that talent its going to be hard for Hayward to put up big numbers. Couple that with the fact that he had his big injury. That might really hurt his production, or it just looks like its the problem. He will be making way too much for any team to want to trade for him. In fact Id bet that by the last couple years of his contract he will be used as a salary dump. He will be older and I bet his game doesnt age well. He was maxing out his athleticism and he needed every bit of it to be good. This is really his last year of peak athleticism and he is starting off on a bad wheel.
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Yup all correct, sad bit is Boston still has shed loads of talent so will be successful anyway. As we've all said moving that contract will not be easy.
 
Boston and Golden State are so damn talented its scary. I'm all about solutions but they are so elite top heavy (GS) and have layers of quality players (Boston).

We can beat them, but we have to make perfect decisions from a FO standpoint. That and stay healthy....

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LoPo said:
Boston and Golden State are so damn talented its scary. I'm all about solutions but they are so elite top heavy (GS) and have layers of quality players (Boston).
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Boston does have players for days it seems and a brilliant coach (but not apparently according to all the other coaches, COY lulz). However, Hayward needs to come back healthy or else he could become Grant Hill part 2 and end up traded to New Orleans for DeMarcus Cousins and trying to figure out what the hell happened.

Jazz can only control who they bring in and what they do with them. I'm trying to do the same...
 
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