Sorry if I was not clear. If they don't trade IT in the Kyrie deal, do they not then have to trade someone else to match Kyrie's salary?
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Sorry if I was not clear. If they don't trade IT in the Kyrie deal, do they not then have to trade someone else to match Kyrie's salary?
Why wouldn't they trade IT tho?
Huh? A TPE would be generated from the transaction, Boston wouldn't be giving anything.
If you're talking about Hayward getting a bigger contract, that doesn't have to be part of the stipulation. I know that is asking a lot of Hayward to not sacrifice anything for an organization he despised.
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If a team receives a player in a sign and trade they are hard capped for the cap year. So they would have been hardcapped at the apron... which they likely would not have exceeded.
So it would have been a consideration. I think if it was just Boston getting a second rounder they would oblige. If Gordon had pushed for one when signing I think they would have obliged. He probably “tried” as did his agent but if Danny says no are they gonna go okay we are going back to Utah.
Eventually teams will start avoiding Ainge when they can. He is one of the few guys who doesn’t consider the whole... he wants to get everything he can every time.
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Remind me what that Boozer deal exception brought us. Is there a website that traces all the trades for Utah?
I disagree. Plenty of GMs have goodwill with each other and look for win wins for each team. Gms deal with each other all the time and look to build good relations when possible especially when it does not effect their own team. Ainge is different than that though. He does not care about burning bridges.
I am certain Jazz would have given up one of their many late 2nds for the TPE and even if not it would have 0 effect on the Celtics to give away the trade exception. Its not harming the team to ask for that. Yes, demanding a player be traded could hurt them so I understand that. It was rumored to be up to Hayward but he definitely was bitter and did not want to help the Jazz and arguably wanted to hurt them.
Nothing but a TPE, but I know the rules were different for sign and trades back then. I dont think what people are saying about Hayward and getting a TPE being nothing for Boston are true anymore. But I really dont know.
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What I don't get is why Hayward was bitter? Because they allowed him to test the market during the first contract negotiation? His performance up to that point didn't merit a big long-term deal.
If I was Aigne I'm not giving Utah **** though and I dont get why he would. Boston is in the driver's seat with how many assets they have. People have to suck their teat.
I think you are allowed to be bitter if the front office didnt believe in you being a max player or thought they could short-change you in a limited free agency market.
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Kind of arrogant, considering the bucks these guys makes now.
Where he promptly shot 42% from the field, and 30% from three for a team that won, what, 25 games?
I disagree. He's trying to make money, they're trying to save it. He didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt he was worth a max on his own merit. If you're a spoiled child, yeah, I guess you could resent that and hold onto it for three years. But he's a conservative, so it's all the more laughable that he's butt hurt that a business made business decisions.