Game Of Thrones


Saint Cy of JFC

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If nothing else, these last couple seasons have me more excited about the books. I was worried when the show passed the books that it would essentially ruin it for me, but because of the major departures and the ham-fisted way the show has gone about telling the story I don't think the show will ruin the enjoyment of the story as written by GRRM.

Reminds me of when OL basically said he wanted the show to not end at its endpoint, but to just go on forever, and that it didn't really matter who wrote it. Well, I think we can all plainly see that writing matters. This is not a story that just writes itself.

Well he has told them the way he intends to end the books. So if you watch the last season, the end will ruin it.
 


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Well he has told them the way he intends to end the books. So if you watch the last season, the end will ruin it.

Yeah, the ultimate victory of the living vs the dead.

I had forgotten just how much the show has departed from the books. There are several storylines that don't exist in the show that I'm very interested to see where they go in the books. Not only that, but the Battle of the ********, as it was on the show, is not possible in the books. Sansa was never married to Ramsey, some imposter impersonating Arya is married to Ramsey. The entire Euron trash in the show is far better in the books. The entire Dornish story line, that is trash in the show is much better in the books. The Lady Stoneheart storyline, that left us with a big cliffhanger in regard to Brienne, is completely absent in the show.

I think many of the eye-roll inducing plot twists of the last few seasons will either be entirely different in the books or they will be done significantly better.

So yeah, where it ends will be spoiled. But I still enjoy the show and will be happy to see the finale. Then I hope very much that I get to read a significantly improved telling of that story when the books come out.
 
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Douchebag K

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If nothing else, these last couple seasons have me more excited about the books. I was worried when the show passed the books that it would essentially ruin it for me, but because of the major departures and the ham-fisted way the show has gone about telling the story I don't think the show will ruin the enjoyment of the story as written by GRRM.

Reminds me of when OL basically said he wanted the show to not end at its endpoint, but to just go on forever, and that it didn't really matter who wrote it. Well, I think we can all plainly see that writing matters. This is not a story that just writes itself.

He's never going to finish the books, he's too busy eating.
 

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Could someone please explain to me why they didn't stretch out the series from 7 to 10 episodes? Felt to me like there's been loads of action but not really enough back story to give it depth.


Seems like a win-win. HBO can get more episodes out of it, viewers get a better story with more depth.


And for those who say "Oh they don't have enough time", I mean give me a break, they've done it for all the other seasons why should this be any different? I don't need extra CGI stuff that I know take AGES to produce, I just need more talking & back story to give it more depth.


Very strange decision for me.
 

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Just wanted to say that the last 2 seasons had been a great disappointment for me. Plenty of cliched action and dialogue (we probably had more last second rescues in either of the last 2 seasons that the rest combined). And the whole thing feels like watching a montage of GoT, where events are just shown, and but you don't get to see the road that led to them.

It is still fun, but I can't wait for it to be over.

It was enjoyable but storytelling wise it left a lot of be desired. Particularly I didn't enjoy the Sansa/Arya/Littlefinger story very much. Never bought the tension between the sisters, it just never felt believable and while the scene involving LF in the last episode was very well acted and executed, it was far too predictable.

I do enjoy the little reunions we have between characters who you care about. I kind of hope we get to see the hound and arya reunited in the future.

Is this a result of running out of source material (the books stopped before the last season right?) and now they are relying on stock hollywood writers who only know how to write cliches?
 

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Well he has told them the way he intends to end the books. So if you watch the last season, the end will ruin it.

Not wholly. And he could throw a curve ball really, really easily. DutchRudder's mom sized gaps at points between the series and the books.

That being said, I look forward to buying myself TWOW for Christmas 2018. And then a Song of Spring sometime in late 2033. I'll be 50, and yet still perusing /r/asoiaf/ with the nerds there.
 

spycam1

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Could someone please explain to me why they didn't stretch out the series from 7 to 10 episodes? Felt to me like there's been loads of action but not really enough back story to give it depth.


Seems like a win-win. HBO can get more episodes out of it, viewers get a better story with more depth.


And for those who say "Oh they don't have enough time", I mean give me a break, they've done it for all the other seasons why should this be any different? I don't need extra CGI stuff that I know take AGES to produce, I just need more talking & back story to give it more depth.


Very strange decision for me.
I agree, and I'm not totally sure why. But I heard that they did it to raise the budget of each episode; they had the same budget for the whole season, so limiting it to 7 episodes increased what they could do with each one, like episode 4 when Dany ambushes the Lanniser army. I think there are more shots of Dany riding Drogon in that sequence than the rest of the series combined.

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Is this a result of running out of source material (the books stopped before the last season right?) and now they are relying on stock hollywood writers who only know how to write cliches?

IIRC, The DB Bros have been there the whole way directing traffic. So it's not like they're outsourcing to Pakistan. But it has suffered more trying to transfer book > show than running out of source material. Most relevant right now is probably Aegon Targaryen as a unique person(Not Jon Snow/Sand) not actually being in the show. Lady Stoneheart, Sansa/Jayne Poole, Mance Rayder, Illidan Payne, the Dorne storylines were slaughtered. Just to name a few.

It's hard fitting a book to a movie or even a series. If tied up properly in the books, this could go down as the Odyssey of our time.

I found a link that can start. Haven't been through all of it, but the first few I checked were correct to my understanding.

http://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-books-differences-from-show-2017-4/#missandei-isnt-having-an-almost-romance-with-grey-worm-any-time-soon-in-the-books-because-shes-only-10-2
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Not wholly. And he could throw a curve ball really, really easily. DutchRudder's mom sized gaps at points between the series and the books.

That being said, I look forward to buying myself TWOW for Christmas 2018. And then a Song of Spring sometime in late 2033. I'll be 50, and yet still perusing /r/asoiaf/ with the nerds there.

He has told them how it will end. He has given them major plot points (like the dragon becoming undead) but he just doesnt tell them (cuz he doesnt know) how those things happen.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Could someone please explain to me why they didn't stretch out the series from 7 to 10 episodes? Felt to me like there's been loads of action but not really enough back story to give it depth.


Seems like a win-win. HBO can get more episodes out of it, viewers get a better story with more depth.


And for those who say "Oh they don't have enough time", I mean give me a break, they've done it for all the other seasons why should this be any different? I don't need extra CGI stuff that I know take AGES to produce, I just need more talking & back story to give it more depth.


Very strange decision for me.

IF HBO had their way 100% they would stretch it out for as long as ****ing possible. The reason it's shortened is probably because the producers and actors don't want to have their entire careers tied up in filming GoT.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Could someone please explain to me why they didn't stretch out the series from 7 to 10 episodes? Felt to me like there's been loads of action but not really enough back story to give it depth.


Seems like a win-win. HBO can get more episodes out of it, viewers get a better story with more depth.


And for those who say "Oh they don't have enough time", I mean give me a break, they've done it for all the other seasons why should this be any different? I don't need extra CGI stuff that I know take AGES to produce, I just need more talking & back story to give it more depth.


Very strange decision for me.

IF HBO had their way 100% they would stretch it out for as long as ****ing possible. The reason it's shortened is probably because the producers and actors don't want to have their entire careers tied up in filming GoT.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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And it's not the CGI that takes so long. It's that they have to film on location in areas where you can only film during certain parts of the year to get the right effects. I posted the video of how much ****ing work/money it took to create the location when they had to do it artificially in the iced lake battle scene.
 

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