Game thread: jazz play a game in a couple of hours, the Timberpups edition.

[Sexual Favors]

I don't know if that necessarily says, "Look how good Favors is" or "Look how bad our depth is".

Bingo.
Also, for those wins/losses last year it should be noted that Kanter immediately returned to the bench when Marvin, Trey, and Jeremy got healthy. There is no way to correlate that him starting was the reason for us losing. Only honest conclusion that should be drawn is that we had key players injured. Young teams struggle, especially when injury bugs bite.


Let me posit this for those discussing bigs:
Favors is good. Kanter is good. Rudy is good. We could keep all three and be fine, or we could keep two and trade the one who would fetch the most return right now, who also has a clear replacement on the roster. Bigs (centers, which is what ours are) are great, but in today's NBA, how many does one actually need? Look at GSW.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Had no idea, but Hayward is now at 39% 3pt shooting.

 

[Revolution 9]

Love seeing all the Trey haters shut up. I thought he played well last night too in LA. Forcing it less, playing with energy, and with more focus. The hatred for trey has been unwarranted, and over the top. Yes he's been frustrating, but hes also had good games, a solid rookie year, and is still a baby. Give him a chance to grow before throwing him to the wolves at 22.

 

[Revolution 9]

Favors is really undervalued on this board. Look at him compared to other players of the league in the same position. He's much better and more valuable than most give him credit for when seen in light of other players at his position.

I really love the fact that Favors took the loss, and missed FTs, in La hard. Got to love him coming to arena early and shooting FTs.

 

[stitches]

Andy Larsen ‏@andyblarsen

Quin Snyder said, and the players confirmed, that for one full timeout, Quin just said nothing and stared at the players. It worked.

lol, I wonder if they have footage of that?

 

[Revolution 9]

Hayward hasn't been that consistent, tbh. He's getting better though.

More consistent than last year. He's made a huge leap this year. Shows you it takes 4-5 years to put it together sometimes.

 

[jumpin bean]

So, to bring back an observation I have often argued against - but it seems to fit here - exactly what is the Jazz' record when Kanter starts and Favors doesn't play? Go back to last season as well. If your argument is that Favors doesn't play winnuing basketball but Kanter does, you better rethink that argument. Favors is not going to take over games. He's not a 1-on-1 player. Favors and Kanter have nearly identical per36 numbers for both scoring and rebounding. And I think we'd all agree Favors is the better defender. Both had key plays late in the game tonight.

And please explain to me why either Favors or Kanter has to be traded. Is there a rule against having three good bigs who play around 32 mins each, depending on matchups, foul trouble and effectiveness?

they all 3 seem to have what the other ones lack. if we morphed them together we would have the greatest center ever,but since we cant then we should keep all 3,using the ones needed most on a game to game basis.

 

[Revolution 9]

Wiggins is a longer Corey Brewer.

lol

 

[jumpin bean]

that's the Jazz prob.we are small market always trading or letting go of talent ,cant afford to keep itt .bla bla.well the money spenders are always title contenders.so until the Jazz do that ,all this trade this draft that is hoop dreams and not reality for winning a ship.

 

[jumpin bean]

Stockton played 1 bad game in the finals,in Chicago Pippen and Jordan trapped him at half court making him get the ball out of his hands,destroying the jazz playmaking abilities in the pick n roll,but in most of the games he was equal or better than Jordan. Malone did have some freethrow flops and Jordan stole the ball late in one game from him with the Jazz in a good winning position.They put Rodman in to just wrestle Malone like a dam clown and that had some effect even though Malone won that battle.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wiggins is a longer Corey Brewer.

Good comp.
Wiggins is a better athlete though with a post game, better rebounder, and better defender.
And I think he is 19 years old. (Don't know how old brewer is)

 

[fishonjazz]

By far the most consistent Jazz player, no one is even close.

Not just for a jazz player...... Hayward has been very consistently good compared with the league in general