Game Thread: Jazz vs. $210 Million Payroll known as the Nets

[DutchJazzer]

Honestly think a lot of that was Corbin being scared of Hayward/Burks having to guard JJ. Both players are too weak to play JJ in the post.

Which is the weirdest **** about the Nets. They have a terrible, terrible offense. Honestly the worst in the NBA from a coaching standpoint, but they have big guards who can post up, so they create problems.

thta might explain it this game.

but what about all the other games.

 

[DutchJazzer]

As for dong stuff on the court that helps everyone else.......... burks with 3 assists.... jeffy with 1. Burks with 6 rebounds........ jeffy with 2. Burks 100% from 3..... jeffy 75%
In basically the same minutes

Neither are great defenders but I think burks is even a bit better at defense than jeffy, is a better rebounder, better passer, better ball handler, better slasher, better at getting to the line, better finisher, better in transition, has more potential, will be around for longer.

Jefferson is the better 3 point shooter though so they should get equal minutes

Jefferson, josh howard, randy foye, cj miles, raja bell > burks

intangibles DOE!

because of jeffies intangibles he helps the youth to develop.

burks has non intangibles all those other players are oozing with magical "intangibles" and "mythical vet power".


butks needs to get one or both of those. untill then he should sit his *** on the bench



/endsarcasm

 

[Stifle Tower]

So Burks did his best against Livingston, I presume?

 

[addictionary]

I see Gobert becoming Aşık easily, if properly trained and coached. The skillset is right there. Just follow the Bulls' methods and his personal schedule which included body building for that.

This was how Aşık looked like when he was around Rudy Gobert's age:

And the followers all know his physical dominance now.

Even he should strengthen the lower body because he shows lack of stamina in long playing time, but I think this is a common thing in long *** players and could be overcomed with proper training at early ages.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Gobert would be a monster if he could bulk up like Asik.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Asik blows tbh

 

[SojoDave]

Jason Kidd is an awful coach. There offensive sets were mostly one-on-one moves. They have some offensive fire power if their players were used right.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

I see Gobert becoming Aşık...

Gobert is tall... what else does he do out there? He can't catch or even hold the ball. He never knows where to be on either end of the court. He did manage to make one layup last night, but that was soon after he somehow airballed his previous try within one foot of the basket. He can't reliably finish or defend. He does try hard, I guess.

I don't get it. What is Fesenko doing now? Can we get him back?

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Deron was the reason Utah has been in rebuild mode the last 3 years. If he would have committed to the Jazz, they and he would both been more successful. I boo him for that.

Yes, and that is why we cheered for Kirilenko last night. Deron didn't sulk and cry and underperform for a half-decade like Andrei.

 

[addictionary]

Gobert is tall... what else does he do out there? He can't catch or even hold the ball. He never knows where to be on either end of the court. He did manage to make one layup last night, but that was soon after he somehow airballed his previous try within one foot of the basket. He can't reliably finish or defend. He does try hard, I guess.

I don't get it. What is Fesenko doing now? Can we get him back?

Your vision is stuck in today's sight. What did you expect from a guy that has been **** all over by his coach by sending to DL in a team full of mostly not so greater players compared to his level? He is a damn rookie and I saw what I needed from him earlier this season. If I were the Jazz FO man (since the HC won't do jack**** about it) I would give this guy to a physician and bulk him up, make him work with a bigman coach that is also big. Not like Ty who falls down when Kanter hits him. I think there is a gem in there. And it's worth working on.

Asik blows tbh

I am shocked at this comment even though I am aware of your lame *** trolling history sir. (sir means **** you dick weed here).

Luv.

addict.

 

[mellow]

Jason Kidd is an awful coach. There offensive sets were mostly one-on-one moves. They have some offensive fire power if their players were used right.

And yet the jazz lost. I have never been on the fire Ty bandwagon, I even like the guy. But the second half of last nights game made it clear what has to happen.

 

[addictionary]

Your vision is stuck in today's sight. What did you expect from a guy that has been **** all over by his coach by sending to DL in a team full of mostly not so greater players compared to his level? He is a damn rookie and I saw what I needed from him earlier this season. If I were the Jazz FO man (since the HC won't do jack**** about it) I would give this guy to a physician and bulk him up, make him work with a bigman coach that is also big. Not like Ty who falls down when Kanter hits him. I think there is a gem in there. And it's worth working on.

^ If Ty can send Gobert to DL, he should hell of a hell off sent his Kanterness to there as well when it looked logical. He could at least gain a few game time instead of posing around out of the ego of being an NBA player and his broken ego would be broken two years earlier in his career since not so much community aspect would give a flying **** about a DL player.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And yet the jazz lost. I have never been on the fire Ty bandwagon, I even like the guy. But the second half of last nights game made it clear what has to happen.

Ty is GREAT for the tank. That decision not to foul, then foul and give them 6 seconds more on the shot clock was BRILLIANT. I mean, that HAS to prove Ty is in on the tank. I didn't even see that level of genius from Mark Jackson.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Ty is GREAT for the tank. That decision not to foul, then foul and give them 6 seconds more on the shot clock was BRILLIANT. I mean, that HAS to prove Ty is in on the tank. I didn't even see that level of genius from Mark Jackson.

Why not just create an iPad app that says whether to foul or not and who to foul, depending on the time remaining and who is in the game? It could track the score and time remaining and literally just display "DON'T FOUL" or "FOUL 0, Blatche" on it depending on the situation. Give the dammed thing to the trainer and he can just tell Corbin what to do. None of this changes from game to game. The scenarios are almost always the same. Just let the dammed app take care of it. This is not meant to pick on Corbin (although he deserved it last night). Just let an automated process take care of it and let Corbin take care of the rest of the "coaching".

Hell, we could probably code up a web app to do the same thing based on updated box score data available online. Then we can watch the app during the game and yell at the TV when Corbin should foul, or not.

 

[candrew]

Ty is GREAT for the tank. That decision not to foul, then foul and give them 6 seconds more on the shot clock was BRILLIANT. I mean, that HAS to prove Ty is in on the tank. I didn't even see that level of genius from Mark Jackson.

Seriously, did anyone ask him after the game what his rationale was for this move? I would really love to hear it.

 

[fishonjazz]

I found it funny that harping didn't seem to know that the jazz should have fouled right away either.
Jazz down 4 with only 26 seconds (iirc) remaining.... should be obvious foul situation. harpring is like, "looks like the jazz are gonna just play good defense this possession instead of fouling". He should have been saying, "the jazz need to foul quickly in this situation".

 

[candrew]

Never mind, I found it myself....

"I thought they were gonna go quick and they held back and I decided to go ahead and foul them," Corbin said. "My call."

OK, so with the opposing team up 4 points and 30+ seconds left our HC thought The Nets were going to try to go 2-for-1?

Please god let Coach Ty be in on the tank - otherwise I'd have a hard time getting my mind around the fact that I root for a team that is run by a person who would actually say something like this with a straight face.

 

[candrew]

I found it funny that harping didn't seem to know that the jazz should have fouled right away either.
Jazz down 4 with only 26 seconds (iirc) remaining.... should be obvious foul situation. harpring is like, "looks like the jazz are gonna just play good defense this possession instead of fouling". He should have been saying, "the jazz need to foul quickly in this situation".

At this point, Boler and Harpring treat Corbin like he just finished 3rd in a Special Olympics event.

I live in NJ so the Utah feed was blacked out. Ian Eagle and Mike Fratello do The Net games. Let's just say they had a different take on the situation. Eagle's tone specifically had a distinict "WTF just happened" ring to it.

 

[fishonjazz]

Found the play by play on the utah jazz app.

32 seconds left alec burks get a dunk (great pass from trey and great cut without the ball by burks) to get the jazz within 4.

The jazz foul with 16 seconds left but that doesnt even get them in the penalty. So NJ inbounds and we foul blatche with 14 seconds left. Lol

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

I found it funny that harping didn't seem to know that the jazz should have fouled right away either.
Jazz down 4 with only 26 seconds (iirc) remaining.... should be obvious foul situation. harpring is like, "looks like the jazz are gonna just play good defense this possession instead of fouling". He should have been saying, "the jazz need to foul quickly in this situation".

It wouldn't have mattered if the Jazz had just played it straight up, forced a miss, and gotten the ball back with 10 seconds remaining. The only thing the Jazz HAD to do in that situation was NOT let the Nets run the clock down to 14 seconds and THEN foul... which is somehow exactly what they did.

iPad app would've been all over this one, i tell ya.