Game Thread Preseason Utah Jazz vs LA Clippers 10-10-16

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Lots to be happy with.

Exum: showing some nice flashes on D. Can hit the 3. Exum 3D
Bolomboy: what a nice project to have. Psychical specimen, can rebound, and score around the basket like Sap his rookie year?
Lyles: Cool, calm, and collected. He is an NBA player. Nice put back jam in the 2nd half.
Hood: That wet J was back. He can lead if Hayward is out.
Joe Johnson: Finally we see the effective ISO JOE we've been waiting for. He will hit some game winners for us this year.
Joe Ingles: Looking more like Manu these days than end of the bench trash.
Gobert: Finally showing something around the rim offensively. Man he moves so awkwardly, but he's starting to develop.

Joe hasn't looked like garbage since the first half of his first year

Self proclaimed Trey Burke hates here. Instead of saying goodbye to CJ or Withey, why not Mack?

Mack had some flashes at the end of the game but those were heavily outweighed by inefficient offense, poor decisions and horrible turnovers. I'd much rather see Neto instead of Mack.

(This was not directed personally at you EM, but I just had to get those thoughts out)

Yes, Mack is my new "love to hate" guy on the team. I thought it was a HUGE mistake when the FO guaranteed his contract.

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Thought he was awful in pick'n roll offense. There were two or three times he was in pick'n roll with Lyles. Each time he came off the screen and ignored the fact that Lyles was wide open for three and Mack ignored him. In each play Mack either turned it over missed a difficult shot or had to restart the play

The strip was a little lucky... the lateral movement was great.

Exum is a conundrum... gets where he wants to but can't finish. I don't know how to solve that... reps are good but it also seems like one of those things that should come fairly naturally. Either way I still like his potential still. Will reserve judgement until he's played 40 games this year.

I'm not too worried about his offense. He's showing the ability to improve his outside shooting. He's super young and coming off a major injury. I still remember Hayward passing up shots when he got in the paint. He will improve.

 

[str8line]

Eh, I think there are times when you can diss his defense. He isn't perfect.

Overall he has been a great defender but I have no problem saying he played bad defense on a particular play in a gamethread.

Yeah, it's fine to diss anyone for a single play, but to call any play by Dante lucky as if he doesn't have it in him is pretty ridiculous.

 

[Stoked]

Yeah, it's fine to diss anyone for a single play, but to call any play by Dante lucky as if he doesn't have it in him is pretty ridiculous.

I disagree. Even great players get lucky. It happens. Sometimes they are unlucky as well.

 

[orangello]

Feeling great about this game despite the fact it's preseason. Clippers wanted this one and rode Crawford hard and Chris Johnson and Bolomboy make multiple plays in the closing minutes; this shows how good DL is at spotting talent - when the end of the bench guys are making plays and aren't afraid of crunch time.

I don't know if CJ will remain but he had a heck of a game and did all he could do.

Don't forget that CP3 was playing into the 4th.

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[orangello]

It is incredible for me to think that the Jazz almost made the playoff (albeit in a down year) with Mack, Neto and Burke as our only PG options.

Scary!

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

I disagree. Even great players get lucky. It happens. Sometimes they are unlucky as well.

I disagree. Great players constantly put themselves in a position to make a lucky plays. Dante did that last night.


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[♪alt13]

Good to see that Hayward has been working w/Lyles on that steback.(2:33)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2wqeNWVVo

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah, it's fine to diss anyone for a single play, but to call any play by Dante lucky as if he doesn't have it in him is pretty ridiculous.

Agreed. That was some amazing defense. No luck involved at all imo.

 

[fishonjazz]

Good to see that Hayward has been working w/Lyles on that steback.(2:33)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2wqeNWVVo

Lyles looks fantastic.
I liked the play earlier in the game when cp3 got stuck on lyles in the post and then a double team came and lyles simply quickly turned baseline and shot a sweet jumper over the top.

Dude has offense for days

 

[Stoked]

I disagree. Great players constantly put themselves in a position to make a lucky plays. Dante did that last night.


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So did Dante got lucky or not? Is there a threshold of talent where luck no longer exists?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

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So did Dante got lucky or not? Is there a threshold of talent where luck no longer exists?

Point is when the move was made, Dante was able to stay in front to be in position to get the Lockyer strip that's what good players do and they tend to get lucky more often. They create luck. I believe this whether u do or not.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

20 more lbs. of muscle might help. I think he's just afraid of contact at the moment. He showed that wasn't as afraid during summer league 2015. He'll get back to that kind of play eventually. He'll get faster too which is a crazy thought.

Part of it is confidence on his knee too.