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Game Thread: Utah @ BYU, Sat. 9/21 8:15pm MT, ESPN2

colton said:
Oh, I agree--it's clear that he BECAME a BYU fan--apparently BYU fans impressed him whereas Ute fans did not. But he didn't start out with an agenda. At least, I'm willing to take him at his word that that was the case.
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So he "became" a fan of BYU through his writings over the years and that had no bearing on the article he wrote last week? Keep drinking the kook-aid Colton.

Usually Green's posts are pretty anti-BYU even for my tastes but I've gotta admit, the last few pages he has been nailing it. Shame on Benedict for publishing the compliance officer's name (100% bush league journalism) and shame on BYU fans for harassing her. But hey, they have no problem nearly assaulting K-Whit's wife. Why would this poor woman be any different? And yes, I think Benedict is a flat-out liar. I do not believe that his faith and opinion of BYU did not come into play in this article and I do not believe for 1 second that Hadley was about to turn himself in and an email just happened to appear. The article is a joke written by an LDS shill.
 
colton said:
So your attitude is just to call everyone liars? Max Hall must have lied about the beer. This guy must have lied about the beer. I'm not sure if you're also one of the ones calling him a liar about the prison incident, but if so then that's just one more thing you can't accept as reality (despite it being easily falsifiable).

Maybe, just maybe, you should open your mind a bit.
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Maybe you should put out an APB for your common sense. You do realize that the Max Hall story has been debunked from every angle, right? While you can probably get away with sneaking in a small amount of alcohol to any stadium, how did these people sneak in enough beer to drink over the course of a game and still have enough to shower Max's mom? With multiple event staff and security posted in each seating area, how were these people able to openly drink beer over the course of the game and then assault somebody with the evil beverage? How, in a stadium with 50,000 people in it (some of them BYU fans) was there not one single witness to the alleged assault?

Max Hall lied. His parents lied. They are liars and there's not one shred of factual evidence that would prove otherwise.
 
UGLI baby said:
You really believe that Utah State Prison inmates were so touched by the trials and tribulations of a guy that got caught drinking alcohol that one of them started a slow clap and the inmates chanted byu "louder than in any stadium on Saturday"?

Also, if it's just an unbiased article, why randomly bring up how vial Utes fans are?

I asked this before, but what is supposed to be inspiring about hadleys situation? I don't understand what he has done that is courageous. I don't look down upon him for what he did in the slightest, just don't get what "redemption" he has had in the last 10 days. Did people expect him to die or something after he got caught?

Can a byu person please chime in on this?^


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tl;dr
 
jazzman12 said:
Maybe you should put out an APB for your common sense. You do realize that the Max Hall story has been debunked from every angle, right? While you can probably get away with sneaking in a small amount of alcohol to any stadium, how did these people sneak in enough beer to drink over the course of a game and still have enough to shower Max's mom? With multiple event staff and security posted in each seating area, how were these people able to openly drink beer over the course of the game and then assault somebody with the evil beverage? How, in a stadium with 50,000 people in it (some of them BYU fans) was there not one single witness to the alleged assault?

Max Hall lied. His parents lied. They are liars and there's not one shred of factual evidence that would prove otherwise.
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Let's pretend Max wasn't lying. Did you know that the fans in Arizona did THE EXACT SAME THING TO HIS FAMILY? So, either Max Hall is a liar, or his family is so awful to be around that people pour beer on him. That they smuggled in. And paid good money for.

Either way, the problem is once again, BYU players/fans. Not Utah players/fans. Everything that's wrong with this rivalry comes from the side that throws religion into it. Ironic.

""My uncle and my grandpa don't really like U of A," Hall said. "Playing at ASU and being spit on and having beer spilled on them, and all that stuff. ... "

https://m.deseretnews.com/article/7...ager-to-face-his-other-rival-team.html?pg=all

I admit to being a troll to BYU fans. But it's because they live in fantasy land. This article proves it. I love BYU sports. My second favorite team. I watch all their games. I HATE BYU fans. Everything they pretend Utah fans do...they actually do. It's funny to sit back and watch.
 
jazzman12 said:
Maybe you should put out an APB for your common sense. You do realize that the Max Hall story has been debunked from every angle, right? While you can probably get away with sneaking in a small amount of alcohol to any stadium, how did these people sneak in enough beer to drink over the course of a game and still have enough to shower Max's mom? With multiple event staff and security posted in each seating area, how were these people able to openly drink beer over the course of the game and then assault somebody with the evil beverage? How, in a stadium with 50,000 people in it (some of them BYU fans) was there not one single witness to the alleged assault?

Max Hall lied. His parents lied. They are liars and there's not one shred of factual evidence that would prove otherwise.
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I have been to utes games.... lots of beer is consumed, I'm surprised you didnt know this.
Maybe max hall lied but to say the way you know he is lying is because there couldnt possibly be beer available in the football stadium is flat out wrong
 
UGLI baby said:
I asked this before, but what is supposed to be inspiring about hadleys situation? I don't understand what he has done that is courageous. I don't look down upon him for what he did in the slightest, just don't get what "redemption" he has had in the last 10 days. Did people expect him to die or something after he got caught?

Can a byu person please chime in on this?^


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Possibly that hadley made a mistake and is now trying to change and redeem himself, repent, and learn from his mistakes.

Maybe some of the people in prison also made a mistake and are try to change and redeem themselves as well.

Maybe that created a connection between some of the inmates and hadley.

I don't know but its possible
 
jazzman12 said:
Maybe you should put out an APB for your common sense. You do realize that the Max Hall story has been debunked from every angle, right? While you can probably get away with sneaking in a small amount of alcohol to any stadium, how did these people sneak in enough beer to drink over the course of a game and still have enough to shower Max's mom? With multiple event staff and security posted in each seating area, how were these people able to openly drink beer over the course of the game and then assault somebody with the evil beverage? How, in a stadium with 50,000 people in it (some of them BYU fans) was there not one single witness to the alleged assault?

Max Hall lied. His parents lied. They are liars and there's not one shred of factual evidence that would prove otherwise.
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Thou doth protest too much.

One finger pointing forward, three pointing back.
 
fishonjazz said:
Possibly that hadley made a mistake and is now trying to change and redeem himself, repent, and learn from his mistakes.

Maybe some of the people in prison also made a mistake and are try to change and redeem themselves as well.

Maybe that created a connection between some of the inmates and hadley.

I don't know but its possible
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Also unlikely as ****.
 
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