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Gay marriage in Utah put on hold

I agree, I just hate that tax money is going toward tilting at this particular windmill.

I also agree. So many better ways to both protect the sanctity or marriage and wisely use tax dollars.
 
No it hasn't. Try again.

LOL are you on drugs? American society has always been built around the family. Ever person comes from a father and a mother. Marriage is in place to sustain that family relationship. Most all heterosexual marriages involve children.


Are you pretending to be dumb?
 
LOL are you on drugs? American society has always been built around the family. Ever person comes from a father and a mother. Marriage is in place to sustain that family relationship. Most all heterosexual marriages involve children.


Are you pretending to be dumb?

So you're saying marriage didn't exist before 'murica?
 
LOL are you on drugs? American society has always been built around the family. Ever person comes from a father and a mother. Marriage is in place to sustain that family relationship. Most all heterosexual marriages involve children.


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Thus all those parts of the constitution that refer to the family.
 
The critical questions are: Do states have a fundamental right to define marriage? Or do gays have a fundamental right to marry?

States rights never trump the constitution. Not allowing gay marriage is purposefully discriminating against a particular (and significant) segment of society. How is that okay?




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Two things: 1 - Why is government even in the marriage business, and 2 - I'm sick of Utah being called a "conservative" state. High taxes, government involvement in every aspect of our lives, etc. We are not a conservative state. You can have guns here and that is it.

You can also vote straight Republican for no other reason than you recognize the name because you got 989 mailers two weeks before the election.

Its not about the Bible. Its about the creation of life. Marriage has always been about creating families.

Interesting. Me and every other Mormon I know made sure our wives were on birth control a month or two before we got married because -- wait for it -- we wanted to bump uglies and NOT have a family. TBH, I only got married so I could have someone to do my laundry and mow the grass.

Only heterosexual relations can create offspring.

This guy is a pretty deep thinker. I wonder what would happen if we put 100 of him on a deserted island...

That being said I am not against gay marriage. Heterosexual and homosexuals should be seen as socially equal but they are obviously not biologically equal.

I'm not against black people. I think negro's should be seen as socially equal but they are obviously not biologically equal.

Are you pretending to be dumb?

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States rights never trump the constitution. Not allowing gay marriage is purposefully discriminating against a particular (and significant) segment of society. How is that okay?

You make it sound so simple. It's almost like, you know, it really is that simple. Which, of course, it is.
 
The funniest thing about Beantown's argument is his insisting that marriage has always been about creating families. Is a gay marriage not a family?

There are plenty of children without families that want nothing more than the opportunity to be a part of one.


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The funniest thing about Beantown's argument is his insisting that marriage has always been about creating families. Is a gay marriage not a family?

There are plenty of children without families that want nothing more than the opportunity to be a part of one.


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Did I ever say I was against gay marriage or gay people adopting?
 
States rights never trump the constitution. Not allowing gay marriage is purposefully discriminating against a particular (and significant) segment of society. How is that okay?

Where in the constitution does it say that one has a fundamental right to marry the same sex? If homosexuals were prohibited from marrying people of opposite sex, then I would buy your argument. But they are not, and they can--and many do--enter into traditional marriages. And many even have kids with their opposite sex partner. So in short, homosexuals have just as much right to a traditional marriage as anyone.

Edit: at least, that's my opinion until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, which they may or may not do. But as yet they have NEVER proclaimed there to be a fundamental right to marry people of the same sex.
 
The funniest thing about Beantown's argument is his insisting that marriage has always been about creating families. Is a gay marriage not a family?

There are plenty of children without families that want nothing more than the opportunity to be a part of one.


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While amusing -- in the sense that watching a guy with no arms trying to tread water is amusing -- I don't find anything really funny about BeanDowns. Nothing at all. He's a walking parody and easily one of the least likable people on this board.
 
While amusing -- in the sense that watching a guy with no arms trying to tread water is amusing -- I don't find anything really funny about BeanDowns. Nothing at all. He's a walking parody and easily one of the least likable people on planet earth.


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Did I ever say I was against gay marriage or gay people adopting?

Did I say you did? Did you not say that marriage is about creating families? You did, in case you forgot. So, naturally, I assumed it was germane to your point.

Silly me.


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