And whether or not Koreans are a playable race.
General Conference - Fall 2010
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And whether or not Koreans are a playable race.
Are they the standard orc species or Uruk-hai?
I'd say N. Koreans yes. Nasty lillte pests with their mini N-bombs. S. Koreans, not so much.
SOP for the HRC.
They have a problem with Packer's talk. Okay, I get that. Fine. But where do they get off equating disagreement with hate? Is this news that the mormon church considers homosexuality unnatural? Hardly. But I don't remember the part of the talk saying that gays should be bullied, harassed, abused, scorned, or otherwise mistreated. I must have been in the restroom.
People are going to disagree. But we can't run around playing the HATE card every time someone says something we don't like.
You're just lucky they haven't dropped the bigot card on you yet.
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Elder Uchtdorf's talk in the Priesthood session about pride. He talked about sports, which made me think about the BYU/Utah thing. But we've already talked about that...
Pride in general is a huge problem right now. Tea party people and liberals are all "right" and need to "educate" the other side without listening.
Pride is basically the #1 root cause of sin. We place our will and desires for temporary pleasure ahead of God's will for us.
I also thought that President Monson's talk during the Priesthood session was good. Although, did anyone else find his tone of voice a little scary sometimes? He was extremely dramatic I thought...
Anyway, those were just a few off the top of my head.
KatieMCR
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The biggest problem is that Packer said that people can change their sexual orientation. That is the kind of talk that perpetuates the self-hatred and self-loathing that LGBT mormon youth generally have due to what they are told by the leaders of the church. It is this kind of talk that can lead people to bully and harass LGBT people. Do you have any idea what that does to a young person? Why do you think so many LGBT youth are committing suicide? This is a serious problem. The church needs to realize that their words have consequences. I have been through this myself. I was raised in the church. I know how it hurts. I went through much pain and depression due to it. Luckily I was strong enough to pull through on my own, and never attempted suicide. This issue is very personal to me.
How are Packer's comments not harmful? Here's a serious question, that should have an obvious answer. If you are straight, do you think you change your sexual orientation to be gay? I'm going to guess the answer from most, if not all, would be a resounding no. Now think about it the other way around. Why would you think a gay person can change their sexual orientation? It doesn't make sense.
That's easy, they can't. (unless they're just trying to be cool by kissing other girls or by wearing skinny jeans and cutting themselves)
This is the main reason I am bent about this particular talk. I imagine that Packer doesn't remember the day that he conciously decided that he liked girls, and not boys.
This is the main reason I am bent about this particular talk. I imagine that Packer doesn't remember the day that he conciously decided that he liked girls, and not boys.
I may have a different opinion after I read the transcript, but for what it's worth when I heard his talk that's not how I parsed the language. It seemed to me that he was saying something to the effect of, "Does God want you to behave that way? No. Did God make it so that you HAVE to behave that way? No. Can you overcome your in-born tendencies? Yes!"
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