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Geez Katie, why you so butt hurt about others beliefs? Nazi.
General Conference - Fall 2010
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Honest question: How are the "talks" given at General Conference selected?
Archie Moses
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They are assigned by the leader/leaders. Whatever subjects the leaders feel are important or the things the leaders are inspired to reveal/teach/brushup/remind. Speech's are often given after hours prayer as well as meditation.
EDIT: I didn't answer the question. hehe
Beantown
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Mormons believe there are natural laws that as children of God we believe we should obey and even God is bound by these laws. We believe homosexuality is breaking these natural laws.
I personally believe homosexuality is caused from enviormental/mental factors. But definatly not biological. This to me is as simple as the birds and the bees. But some poeple have different opinions than me.
Its the same as if a man was to get molested as a child. Then when when he gets older he has sexual feelings towards children. His ACT of molesting is the sin, probably dwelling on it too. But him being able to control himself would make him no less of any other church member.
Incorrect. Boyd K. Packer is a great man who is 80+ years old, and has the same mentality he had 50, 40, hell, 10 years ago. Ignorance does not = Bigoted.
Archie Moses
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I'm going to have to agree to disagree here. Thanks for your opinion though.
Basically, you can count on at least one talk from each of the Apostles and members of the First Presidency. The President of the Church will usually speak at each session. The rest are filled in by invitation. More than likely, you'll get a representative from each auxiliary (Relief Society, Primary, General Bishopric, etc.) to give a talk at some point in time during Conference. The rest are members of the Quorums of Seventy.
Each speaker is free to choose whichever subject they would like. I don't believe anything has to be pre-approved.
Beantown
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What did Packer say that was so controversial?
Homosexualilty is against nature?
A 5th grade biology book makes a very strong case for this.
Homosexuals can change their sexuality?
No that controversial. My uncle is gay but had many girlfriends and female sexual partners well into his 30's and says he still finds women attractive. Didnt Anne Heche reverse?
People have different opinions, just because we have different opinions doesnt make people ignorant or bigoted. Me saying that all people that dont believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God are ignorant/bigots is just as ludacris.
Homosexualilty is against nature?
A 5th grade biology book makes a very strong case for this.
Homosexuals can change their sexuality?
No that controversial. My uncle is gay but had many girlfriends and female sexual partners well into his 30's and says he still finds women attractive. Didnt Anne Heche reverse?
People have different opinions, just because we have different opinions doesnt make people ignorant or bigoted. Me saying that all people that dont believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God are ignorant/bigots is just as ludacris.
Archie Moses
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I'm pretty sure this is wrong. From what I understand, the President reads all talks before they are given and delegates talks subjects as well. They do have to be approved by him. I could be wrong, but this is what I've heard.
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G-O-A-T
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I don't see his speech as a message of hate - I see it as a message of anti-diversity - which can sort of lead to hate.
Consider a hypothetical whereby the church prez had a revelation from god that left-handedness was now a sin. Then the church, in its official position towards left handers, stated that they should be treated humanly and with love, but that those with a tenancy to use their left hands would need to overcome their desire to use their left hand if they wanted to experience the full glory of the afterlife.
How do you think left handers would feel? How would you like to make the choice - experience earthly passions like being good at sports or fighting your tendency to use your strong hand so that you could live a glorious afterlife? Sure, you could switch hands and still be functional... but you would never have the dexterity and comfort like that of a natural right hander. You could live morally at the cost of being uncomfortable in your own skin or you could be yourself and stress about living in sin for the rest of your life... easy choice, eh?
On the other side of the equation are the righty's... they are the majority, and they feel that its totally normal to be right handed. They probably just make the natural assumption that left handers can change if they want... and if they just put their mind to it they can gain the same dexterity as any natural righty. It probably wouldn't be surprising if a few of those righty's looked down on lefty's as lazy and immoral. It might not even be a stretch to imagine some of those righteous rightys discriminating against leftys... though not because the church told them to... right?
OK... left handedness... homosexuality... totally not the same thing... right? Well, I dunno about that one.
Left handers make up about 10% of the population... gays make up about 10% of the population.
Left handers can physically do anything (that matters) right handers can do. Same with gays.
Left handers are just as mentally capable of anything that right handers are capable of. Same with gays.
Left handers look the same as right handers. Same with gays.
Thank god the bible doesn't condemn us leftys!
Yeah... I know there's one big thing that some of you are thinking about - looking at you beantown - but before you type it in and "submit reply" take a minute and think about it critically.
I might just say that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether a person is left handed or right handed... just as I would say it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether a person is homosexual or not. But interestingly, the church (and many others) doesn't seem to agree with my logic... they must know something I don't... oh yeah... the bible... that book, that if taken literally, tells us that we are ALL living in sin in one way or another. But once again, its funny how many churches (and many others in general) seem to let some sins slide (like the ones that everyone are guilty of) while they harp on others (which only a minority are guilty of).
If I knew any better, I might say that messages, like this recent one, are an encouragement to all be the same... to do, act, and look like everyone else. Heaven forbid we embrace our differences (those that don't bring harm to anyone) and live together and learn from each other. Heaven forbid that ALL people live comfortably in their own skin and contribute to society with confidence and vigor. Heaven forbid that people just get over petty differences, like sexuality, and focus on more important stuff.
Consider a hypothetical whereby the church prez had a revelation from god that left-handedness was now a sin. Then the church, in its official position towards left handers, stated that they should be treated humanly and with love, but that those with a tenancy to use their left hands would need to overcome their desire to use their left hand if they wanted to experience the full glory of the afterlife.
How do you think left handers would feel? How would you like to make the choice - experience earthly passions like being good at sports or fighting your tendency to use your strong hand so that you could live a glorious afterlife? Sure, you could switch hands and still be functional... but you would never have the dexterity and comfort like that of a natural right hander. You could live morally at the cost of being uncomfortable in your own skin or you could be yourself and stress about living in sin for the rest of your life... easy choice, eh?
On the other side of the equation are the righty's... they are the majority, and they feel that its totally normal to be right handed. They probably just make the natural assumption that left handers can change if they want... and if they just put their mind to it they can gain the same dexterity as any natural righty. It probably wouldn't be surprising if a few of those righty's looked down on lefty's as lazy and immoral. It might not even be a stretch to imagine some of those righteous rightys discriminating against leftys... though not because the church told them to... right?
OK... left handedness... homosexuality... totally not the same thing... right? Well, I dunno about that one.
Left handers make up about 10% of the population... gays make up about 10% of the population.
Left handers can physically do anything (that matters) right handers can do. Same with gays.
Left handers are just as mentally capable of anything that right handers are capable of. Same with gays.
Left handers look the same as right handers. Same with gays.
Thank god the bible doesn't condemn us leftys!
Yeah... I know there's one big thing that some of you are thinking about - looking at you beantown - but before you type it in and "submit reply" take a minute and think about it critically.
I might just say that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether a person is left handed or right handed... just as I would say it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether a person is homosexual or not. But interestingly, the church (and many others) doesn't seem to agree with my logic... they must know something I don't... oh yeah... the bible... that book, that if taken literally, tells us that we are ALL living in sin in one way or another. But once again, its funny how many churches (and many others in general) seem to let some sins slide (like the ones that everyone are guilty of) while they harp on others (which only a minority are guilty of).
If I knew any better, I might say that messages, like this recent one, are an encouragement to all be the same... to do, act, and look like everyone else. Heaven forbid we embrace our differences (those that don't bring harm to anyone) and live together and learn from each other. Heaven forbid that ALL people live comfortably in their own skin and contribute to society with confidence and vigor. Heaven forbid that people just get over petty differences, like sexuality, and focus on more important stuff.
As far as I know, the church president (Pres. Monson, currently) selects the speakers, most likely in consultation with his counselors. Then each speaker selects his/her own topic. (There might be the occasional time that the church president asks a speaker to talk on a particular topic, but the things speakers have said from time to time lead me to believe that that's not how it is generally done.)