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George Hill coming to Utah

Jazz got the total worse end of this..
Indiana basically upgraded Teague with Hill becauce yall were stupid enough to give the number 12 pick to a guy who averaged 12 points and 5.9 assist last year. WOW
Atlanta unloaded Teague for a late lottery pick. Only because Utah was dumb enough. I like Hill for the Jazz and think he is a solid player but gave uop way to much for him. The other 2 teams clearly made out better and it isn't even close.

Knowing our Colorado friend hates the deal makes me like it even more.
 
I like the trade. I'm bummed we don't get to add another young lotto talent but this is a smart move by the FO. We have to win now. If we don't make the playoffs, I'd think there's a greater chance Hayward bolts than if we do and maybe win a couple playoff games. It's also insurance for Exum coming off the injury. And of course, it adds depth. Getting him, Exum and Burks, as well as maybe another solid FA, and some 2nd rounders, is adding a lot of legit talent and depth to this team.

Exum (20), Hill (28)
Hood (14), Exum (8), Burks (26)
Hayward (34), Hood (14)
Favors (27), Lyles (21)
Gobert (31), Favors (6), Lyles (4), Withey (7)

Or something like this.
I'm pretty sure Hill will get some mins at sg.
Teague is better no matter how you look at it.

Teague is the better player while Hill is better for the Jazz.

IMO Teague is the better pg, but not the better player. Hill is the better player for what the Jazz need. Teague, more then likely would've been a one year rental unless we wanted to commit to him long term with a max and give up on Exum. That wasn't going to happen.
 
I'm pretty sure Hill will get some mins at sg.




IMO Teague is the better pg, but not the better player. Hill is the better player for what the Jazz need. Teague, more then likely would've den a one year rental unless we wanted to commit to him long term with a max and give up on Exum. That wasn't going to happen.

Yup everything I have read on Hill and seen from his camp makes me like his fit.
- Good 3 point shooter
- Good D
- Team oriented (OK with role changes)
- Does not need the ball in his hands to be effective (flexibility with Hayward/Hood/Exum/Burks)
- Saying the right things (we will see if it holds)
 
Teague is the better player while Hill is better for the Jazz.

One could argue Hill is better overall too. The one year he's had a high usage, he put up offensive stats on par with Teague, while providing good defense. People undervalue defense so much.

Furthermore, in the playoffs where things actually matter, Hill has been better. Teague is woefully inefficient in the playoffs, despite having a good surrounding cast. For his career he's shooting 40% overall and 31% from 3...yay. Or maybe we should talk about this recent year where against the mighty defense of Kyrie Irving he shot 34% overall, and 38% overall for the playoffs. But hey, he made the all star team once.
 
George Hill > Teague

Better rebounder
Better at taking care of the ball
Better shooting %'s
More of his shots are 3 pointers
More versatile defender

Teague is used more, has the ball in his hands more. Doesn't mean he is better. I'd take Hill, I don't understand the trade for Indy.
 
I said the PG position would be screwed in two years if Exum doesn't pan out.

You said I said the Jazz would be screwed.
Semantics. My comments were about the point guard position. Why is the position screwed? If Exum doesn't pan out the jazz and if Hill goes rapidly downhill (ha ha) in two or three years they can always sign or trade for another PG just like they did for Hill. It's not like this is/was the only opportunity to address the PG position in the next several years.
 
One could argue Hill is better overall too. The one year he's had a high usage, he put up offensive stats on par with Teague, while providing good defense. People undervalue defense so much.

Furthermore, in the playoffs where things actually matter, Hill has been better. Teague is woefully inefficient in the playoffs, despite having a good surrounding cast. For his career he's shooting 40% overall and 31% from 3...yay. Or maybe we should talk about this recent year where against the mighty defense of Kyrie Irving he shot 34% overall, and 38% overall for the playoffs. But hey, he made the all star team once.

Good post. This is exactly how I see it. Teague IMO is way overrated. The only thing Teague has over Hill is being a better pg


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Like sir said, why did we get Hill and not Teague.

Fewer health issues
More versatility
Better length
Better D
Improves wing rotation
Versatility on defense (switching onto 1-2-3)
Higher probability of signing extension, even if Dante is starting at 1
Hayward connection
Better leadership/ attitude
 
Fewer health issues
More versatility
Better length
Better D
Improves wing rotation
Versatility on defense (switching onto 1-2-3)
Higher probability of signing extension, even if Dante is starting at 1
Hayward connection
Better leadership/ attitude

Add the following:

Should be cheaper in an extension
Doesn't rely on athleticism as much. Once Teague loses that first step, he loses much of his value.
 
Indiana has to be giving up more. Teague is significantly better than Hill.


They are in the same tier, probably top 15-25 PG in league. Both have slid a bit. Hill was 6th in RPM when Paul George out last year. He's now 17th.

Last year Teague RPM = negative 0.69. Hill RPM = positive 0.97
 
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