Global Climate Status Report


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Do you seriously believe this **** that you say, or are you just a troll?

Do I seriously believe the climatologists who describe these things? Yes. Have I misrepresented them? Maybe, but not intentionally.

Do you have anything besides your incredulity to offer?
 


babe

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Yep.



Do you understand what "global" means? Do you think there are snow-packs in Australia?

What I was referring to, specifically, is mountainous areas of the US West above 6000 feet, particularly in the Sierras, because I was expressing my astonishment at how much snow is piling up in areas I regularly see, and have seen in other years. Last year, there were impressive floods in California, highway closures in the spring in the San Joaquin Valley and Bay delta areas, and this years snow is more. I actually neglected to deal with the "global" snowpack issues, particularly in Australia, where it does snow in some of the southeastern mountain areas above 5000 feet. But those "snowpacks" will melt off typically about September.....
 

babe

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Fixed it for you.

As a matter of fact, the sun is still much more important as a climate driver than human industrial or general fuel burning activities. It is credibly believed by some that ocean degassing as the oceans warm late in the interglacial periods is more important as a cause of increasing atmospheric CO2 than our activities.

A lot of other natural processes are being ignored as well, because of the decision to hype the combustion problem.
 

babe

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Do I seriously believe the climatologists who describe these things? Yes. Have I misrepresented them? Maybe, but not intentionally.

Do you have anything besides your incredulity to offer?

A little more time spent looking at your information sources with a critical eye might help solve your own credulity issues.
 

babe

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So way back in the Seventies, I was reading politicized crap about how we needed global plans to cope with the impending Ice Age.

I did a little reading, and noticed a study that reported a sharp temperature spike of ten to twenty years' duration, supposedly immediately before the onset of every studied ice age....

melting ice produces fresh water at 36F, which is as dense as water gets. Ice floats, ice melt sinks. Deep oceanic water is that temp. The thickness of that bottom layer must vary, and must decrease when ice packs are depleted and ice melt flows decrease.... and saline mixing flows decrease as well...… meaning surface temps and temps at depth both rise in such a situation.

At any rate, the magnitude of temp changes associated with ice ages/interglacial warm periods is about 10 C plus or minus about 3C.

Some estimates of the CO2 content of our oceans place it orders of magnitude larger than our atmosphere, with an equilibrium that is highly affected by water temps....

So in my estimation, the proposed "thermostat' process for earth climate is on a scale that could prevail over our fuel use in longer time spans.

But political players with schemes for personally enriching themselves, or grabbing more political power, are not any kind of people to entrust with our welfare. They don't care what is "truth", nor do they care what happens from their games/policies. If they are obviously proven to be dead wrong, they'll be out in front of cameras the next day with some "new" scare they proclaim to be solving.... for their own advantage once again....
 

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What I was referring to, specifically, is mountainous areas of the US West above 6000 feet, ...

So, why title the the thread "Global Climate Status Report" if you are just doing local weather?

A lot of other natural processes are being ignored as well, because of the decision to hype the combustion problem.

Those natural processes *are* in the climate scientists calculations.

A little more time spent looking at your information sources with a critical eye might help solve your own credulity issues.

*Chuckle*. This from the person who thinks climate scientists don't account for natural processes in their models.
 

babe

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you seriously believe socialists and statists of your ilk are objectively presenting"young minds" with a range of possibilities?

nah. You are the indoctrinator class of chicken little's.
 

babe

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So, why title the the thread "Global Climate Status Report" if you are just doing local weather?



Those natural processes *are* in the climate scientists calculations.



*Chuckle*. This from the person who thinks climate scientists don't account for natural processes in their models.
 

babe

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El Nino is hardly "local" weather, but it can be impressive locally, especially in California.

I read the warmist reports too, and see their attributions and discussions of "natural processes". No, they diss more than they consider.

But they have improved of the time I've been watching....a lot.
 

babe

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so according to AOC we only have 12 years until hugely catastrophic world ending climate change ... f#$**** I hope i can still make it to a Jazz game before then ...

I've already been to a Jazz game. It's like my wife's announcement of her bucket-list trip to Israel to see Lehi's Cave....it will not be the end of the world if you miss it.

I see a tinge of humor here in regard to the urban legends of JazzFanz. I'm always happy to see some humor.
 

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