Gobert to Portland Trade Idea

[Elizah Huge]

Okay, ESPN's trade machine thinks the Blazers are still over the cap. Ingles, Nurkic and some other guys will be coming off their books at the end of the cap year.

Yes, they only have 93M worth of contracts that includes Bledsoe’s 19.4M. So actually if they just waive him and eat the 3.9M they would have enough cap space to just absorb Gobert’s contract without sending any salary back.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yes, they only have 93M worth of contracts that includes Bledsoe’s 19.4M. So actually if they just waive him and eat the 3.9M they would have enough cap space to just absorb Gobert’s contract without sending any salary back.

They functionally have zero cap space my friend… to get cap space they have to waive cap holds for Ingles, Nurkic, Simons and waive Bledsoe… plus minimum cap holds if they drop below 8 guys under contract. Plus they’d have to waive a valuable trade exception of 20M. Just trust me here… they will operate as an above the cap team.

 

[Elizah Huge]

They functionally have zero cap space my friend… to get cap space they have to waive cap holds for Ingles, Nurkic, Simons and waive Bledsoe… plus minimum cap holds if they drop below 8 guys under contract. Plus they’d have to waive a valuable trade exception of 20M. Just trust me here… they will operate as an above the cap team.

- Waive Ingles cap hold
- Waive Nurkic cap hold
- Waive Swanigan cap hold
- Waive Bledsoe
- Trade us the #6 pick

That puts them at 101M with 14 players including their cap holds. If they waive any of the cap holds of the other 6 scrubs they have and replace them with minimum salary they can gain more space. The salary cap is 122M.

We’d have to take Hart and Winslow back in the deal to make it work.

Hart/Winslow/#6/Milwaukee’s 2025 unprotected pick for Gobert

Is there anything in this proposal that seems too outlandish?

 

[The Fresh Prince]

That Keegan Murray kid does look intriguing.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz are moving Gobert, I think they'll call every team in the top half of the lottery. They'll make it clear that they want a top 8 pick for Gobert--e.g., Sacramento, San Antonio, New Orleans, Portland, Washington, etc.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The rumor is that Sacramento Kings' GM could get fired if he doesn't make the playoffs this season. I could see the Kings as another sleeper team with interest in Gobert. They'd also be able to offer a top-8 pick. I know they have Sabonis, but he can play out on the floor, and he's currently playing minutes as PF next to other bigs.

Harrison Barnes and a top 7-10 pick might be worth doing for the Jazz.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

- Waive Ingles cap hold
- Waive Nurkic cap hold
- Waive Swanigan cap hold
- Waive Bledsoe
- Trade us the #6 pick

That puts them at 101M with 14 players including their cap holds. If they waive any of the cap holds of the other 6 scrubs they have and replace them with minimum salary they can gain more space. The salary cap is 122M.

We’d have to take Hart and Winslow back in the deal to make it work.

Hart/Winslow/#6/Milwaukee’s 2025 unprotected pick for Gobert

Is there anything in this proposal that seems too outlandish?

I think they’d rather retain Nurkic, Hart, #6, and the trade exception… as well as they keep their MLE and BAE.

Or they guarantee Bledsoe and send him to us in the trade… even if they aren’t planning to keep Nurkic waiving his bird rights means they can’t sign and trade him.

 

[Ujfanatic]

I believe any player being traded in the summer with a non-guaranteed deal for the next year becomes guaranteed in the trade.

Hmm. That is interesting. I didn’t realize that. I thought if you traded a player before their guarantee date the receiving team could then get the savings by not guaranteeing the deal.

Didn’t Memphis do that with Korver’s contract in the Conley trade?

I had been thinking Hernangomez’s non guaranteed contract was a trade chip for us, but maybe not…

 

[infection]

Hmm. That is interesting. I didn’t realize that. I thought if you traded a player before their guarantee date the receiving team could then get the savings by not guaranteeing the deal.

Didn’t Memphis do that with Korver’s contract in the Conley trade?

I had been thinking Hernangomez’s non guaranteed contract was a trade chip for us, but maybe not…

We had all thought this too because we had Udoh, Jerebko and Sefalosha all on 2 year deals that weren’t guaranteed for the second year. We kept pitching hypotheticals thinking they were valuable, but ended up finding out that whatever year you’re traded in (or the “following year” if you’re traded in the summer) becomes fully guaranteed.

Memphis packaged Korver into a larger deal with Phoenix that had other salary and draft picks, then Phoenix waived him.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think they’d rather retain Nurkic, Hart, #6, and the trade exception… as well as they keep their MLE and BAE.

Or they guarantee Bledsoe and send him to us in the trade… even if they aren’t planning to keep Nurkic waiving his bird rights means they can’t sign and trade him.

Yeah, they are in worse shape than I thought. Don’t know why they are avoiding the inevitable they should trade Lillard before it’s too late. Terrible asset management by them.