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Not a cult. Watch the entire 4 minutes not just the first minute. Definitely not a cult.


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I hope her wish comes true. Such a horrible country we live in right now. I mean just night and day different from 4 years ago when this was a virtual paradise, now it's a living hell. I mean did you see when "those people" rushed into the high end store and stole a bunch of purses? That was it for me. I felt so bad for that store and that brand that I just wanted to die right then and there.
 
I’m not under any illusion/delusion that Christian nationalism has anything to do with a Christian faith that follows the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Ask a Christian nationalist if the golden rule applies to those who oppose Donald Trump. They do not, and it’s a political movement, not a religious faith. It’s also a handy ideological substrate to emerging fascist rumblings in America. It can be said that it is actually the antithesis to Christianity’s golden rule. It actually seems to hate the Christian faith itself, sort of a late stage husk of that faith, devoid of empathy, compassion, treating others as “not real Americans”, etc. Using faith falsely to spread hate and bigotry toward others.







The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg wrote that “the conflation of Trump and Jesus was a common theme at the rally” among people he interviewed. “It’s all in the Bible. Everything is predicted. Donald Trump is in the Bible. Get yourself ready,” one told him. “Give it up if you believe in Jesus!” said another, then “Give it up if you believe in Donald Trump!” — which elicited loud cheers from nearby rioters.


The whole Christian Nationalist panic is a farce
See the above links. A farce. I think not. I also would not call it panic. It may run its course, I cannot predict the end result of its resurgence, but you have such a very limited understanding of American culture, esp. at the level of popular culture. One of the problems here is your inability to see the bigger picture in things. Not sure I’ve ever seen you look for any larger historical context at all. You even said once that whoever is president makes no difference whatsoever. And I simply believe that cannot be true.
Supporters of Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib are chanting "Death to America" and you look the other way because they're on your team.
Yes, the war in Gaza has only further deepened divisions and anger on the home front. I don’t condone such a chant, but really only have to be a human being to understanding the deep, deep history that would lead Islamic Americans to feel that way. Esp. in view of all the scenes and news from Gaza. That will very much anger some Americans. Such a chant is foolish since it cannot be expected to elicit sympathy from many. But, as far as “my team”, I was specifically talking about the extreme intolerance exhibited by Christian nationalists, and left plenty of points of view calling your “its a farce” conclusion devoid of the historical context you always seem to ignore.

I’m not playing a team sport here. This is the future of my country. Christian nationalism has been an endemic feature in American culture(The idea of America’s Manifest Destiny in 19th century westward expansion is one such historic exponent of this belief). The main reason it’s making the resurgence it is, is because Trump recognized people who naturally gravitate toward such a “God and America” world view are a natural part of his base. And it’s a belief that can very easily turn as bigoted and intolerant as many other such beliefs.
 
The whole Christian Nationalist panic is a farce, but you know what isn't a farce? Supporters of Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib are chanting "Death to America" and you look the other way because they're on your team.
It was not relevant to what I was discussing, which was the reinvigoration of Christian nationalism. But, instead, you claim I look the other way regarding Tlaib? Has nothing to do with the subject I was attempting to shed light on.

All you’re really doing is stating your point of view about a particular Democratic representative, and then blaming me for not having mentioned her in my “exposition” on the subject I was actually writing about. And there you go on another one of your never ending searches for my motivations, lolol: I “look the other way”….”because they’re on your team”. Really, you actually saw me look the other way? I thought you lived in California?
 
I don't think we've had any social construct that is more divisive than religion in the history of human civilization. Not many forces have been so destructive as religion, even while it's been so instrumental in shaping societal morals and the family structure. It's really an interesting dichotomy, but I believe the net effect has been more negative than positive.
 
I don't think we've had any social construct that is more divisive than religion in the history of human civilization. Not many forces have been so destructive as religion, even while it's been so instrumental in shaping societal morals and the family structure. It's really an interesting dichotomy, but I believe the net effect has been more negative than positive.
Good post though I think it's been slightly more positive.
I appreciate religion even if I dont understand it or practice it

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Good post though I think it's been slightly more positive.
I appreciate religion even if I dont understand it or practice it

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Idk, I try to look at the total cost vs the gain to get us where we are right now. I'm not sure it's worth things like human sacrifices, the inquisition, or jihad, or even the small things, like cutting people off or disowning them or discriminating against them for not practicing the "right" religions, for the positives we have from religion in society. That's why I feel it's a net negative overall.
 
The whole Christian Nationalist panic is a farce, but you know what isn't a farce? Supporters of Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib are chanting "Death to America" and you look the other way because they're on your team. Call that what you want to talk your way around it but the side you are on is chanting "Death to America".
And you know what’s even worse than American citizens, of any stripe, chanting “death to America”? As far from a farce as it gets? Israel killing innocent Palestinian children by the thousands.
 
“Christian nationalist panic”

Yep. Cuz nationalist religious beliefs aren’t already subverting settled law (abortion, Matthew Kacsmaryk and birth control, IVF), Trump worship (I wanna die if he loses), book bans and CRT DEI panic, and Jan 6.

If you don’t see Christian nationalism and its obvious ascendency in America today, it’s because you’re willingly sticking your head in the sand.
 
So are all these people that support Palestine Muslim Nationalist since Palestine is 98% Muslim and they like their country and religion? I mean Jewish people are hated amongst Hamas and the hate filled Christian hating Democrats like we see above. Palestine does not want Jews in its Muslim country.

Personally I see nothing wrong with Palestine wanting to stay their predominant religion and loving their country. @Red and @The Thriller literally hates Christians for it. Hate being soft term This is 1930's-1940's type hate. All because someone believes in God and loves this country. Nothing more. @Red is even pushing civil war over it. Pretty crazy you have to bully people for believing in a deity and loving their country. It's just how you guys are flat out hypocrisy depending on who you want to hate.
 
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f you don’t see Christian nationalism and its obvious ascendency in America today, it’s because you’re willingly sticking your head in the sand.
It not in obvious ascendancy. It is in decline. Ascendency and decline are statistical terms. Stop looking at anecdotes and look at the statistics. Religion, including Christianity, is in collapse in America.

I'm not saying there aren't any Christian Nationalists but I am contrasting the group with the 'Death to America' chanters. There was the Charlottesville rally a few years ago which was organized by the group who organized Occupy Wall Street and the featured speaker being Richard Spencer who endorsed Joe Biden, but we'll pretend they're right wing. A hundred or so marched with Walmart tiki torches chanting "Jews will not replace us" here in America. Now, compare that to the 'Death to America' chanters who hijacked airlines to crash them into buildings here in America. It is marching with tiki torches not wanting to be replaced versus wishing you dead and proving it by killing thousands of infidels with airplanes.

There are different flavors of cuckoo birds but I think it nonsensical to judge the tiki torcher marchers to be a bigger threat than the airline hijacking infidel killers.
 
And you know what’s even worse than American citizens, of any stripe, chanting “death to America”? As far from a farce as it gets? Israel killing innocent Palestinian children by the thousands.
Maybe, but it says something to be more outraged at Israel killing innocent Palestinian children by the thousands than Hamas killing innocent Palestinian children by the tens of thousands.
 
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It’s pretty obvious that some of you are conflating Christian nationalism with Christianity. The two aren’t synonymous. Until you do your reading homework, you should probably abstain from further embarrassment. No amount of your “dEbAtE mE!” Screeches will encourage dialogue from me.





 
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