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One Brow said:
Secrecy and deceit is essential in government. If we have intelligence of a plot, you don't expect anyone to release the name of the source, do you? I would be surprised if you genuinely thought there should be no secrets nor deceit from any government official, but I actually believe this is a standard you apply to Clinton more than others, which is unsurprising.



So, she made two completely true statements, and you have a problem with their being next to each other, because a lower-level (than Clinton) in State used the talking points of the CIA. That's all fine, but don't expect me to believe that you hold all politicians to this standard. You are not a fool.
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There's a big difference between not revealing the name of a source and willfully deceiving the public for political reasons, but we've beaten this horse into the ground. Time to let it die.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I don't understand the bolded sentence.

As for the blue laws, I didn't even realize that car dealerships were required to close on Sundays, but who cares? If it is so urgent to buy a car on that day just go to KSL.com. My guess is that the dealerships are the ones who are actually behind this law anyway. If they wanted it reversed it would be.
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You don't? You made this claim:

They believe that government is expensive and inefficient. They believe that we are adults and do not need massive amounts of governance.

And I pointed out the glaring holes in it where conservatives (granted, the social conservatives more so than the libertarian conservatives) are the active pursuers of massive amounts of governance. Hell with weed they are the clowns that still advocate the Federal Government enforcing laws, even though they whine about state's rights when it comes to issues they like.
 
Nate505 said:
You don't? You made this claim:

They believe that government is expensive and inefficient. They believe that we are adults and do not need massive amounts of governance.

And I pointed out the glaring holes in it where conservatives (granted, the social conservatives more so than the libertarian conservatives) are the active pursuers of massive amounts of governance. Hell with weed they are the clowns that still advocate the Federal Government enforcing laws, even though they whine about state's rights when it comes to issues they like.
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I should have said "I believe" not "they believe."
 
OK, it is official. I will NEVER, EVER support Trump. I will vote for anyone, including Clinton (vomit), over Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tless-searches-id-cards-for-american-muslims/

He will not rule out warrantless searches, a national database and a special ID for Muslims, and their Mosques, in America.

Disgusting and if the Rs had any shred of decency they would rush to condemn this en mass and throw him out of their primary and party. Jews under Hitler anyone?

To me this goes against pretty much everything America is and is supposed to be. I will never embrace or accept it.

Edit: This also makes me wonder. Is this all a plan to destroy the Rs? TO ensure Clinton is the next President?
 
Stoked said:
OK, it is official. I will NEVER, EVER support Trump. I will vote for anyone, including Clinton (vomit), over Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tless-searches-id-cards-for-american-muslims/

He will not rule out warrantless searches, a national database and a special ID for Muslims, and their Mosques, in America.

Disgusting and if the Rs had any shred of decency they would rush to condemn this en mass and throw him out of their primary and party. Jews under Hitler anyone?

To me this goes against pretty much everything America is and is supposed to be. I will never embrace or accept it.

Edit: This also makes me wonder. Is this all a plan to destroy the Rs? TO ensure Clinton is the next President?
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I don't think Carson is too much different from this. He has been acting super bigoted this week as well.
 
Y'all better round up them Moslems like cattle you guys! They're CraAAAaaAAzzyyy!!!!
 
Stoked said:
OK, it is official. I will NEVER, EVER support Trump. I will vote for anyone, including Clinton (vomit), over Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tless-searches-id-cards-for-american-muslims/

He will not rule out warrantless searches, a national database and a special ID for Muslims, and their Mosques, in America.

Disgusting and if the Rs had any shred of decency they would rush to condemn this en mass and throw him out of their primary and party. Jews under Hitler anyone?

To me this goes against pretty much everything America is and is supposed to be. I will never embrace or accept it.

Edit: This also makes me wonder. Is this all a plan to destroy the Rs? TO ensure Clinton is the next President?
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It doesn't matter who wins Stoked! It's all a big show!

Are you not entertained yet? :D
 
Stoked said:
OK, it is official. I will NEVER, EVER support Trump. I will vote for anyone, including Clinton (vomit), over Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tless-searches-id-cards-for-american-muslims/

He will not rule out warrantless searches, a national database and a special ID for Muslims, and their Mosques, in America.

Disgusting and if the Rs had any shred of decency they would rush to condemn this en mass and throw him out of their primary and party. Jews under Hitler anyone?

To me this goes against pretty much everything America is and is supposed to be. I will never embrace or accept it.

Edit: This also makes me wonder. Is this all a plan to destroy the Rs? TO ensure Clinton is the next President?
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He has disqualified himself as far as I'm concerned as well. These statements prove that he does not know the lessons of history, and he doesn't care about the principles this country was founded upon. I wouldn't vote for Clinton over him, but if those were my choices I guess I'd vote for a third party candidate in protest.

And then I'd look into moving to New Zealand.
 
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