Gordon Hayward can not Score in the NBA

[Shaggy]

World Cup > Orlando Summer League

 

[Archie Moses]

All I'm saying is atleast wait until you have all the facts until you start speculating, otherwise its just a big guessing game.

If all this forum has devolved into is a place of rampant speculation then count me out, I want nothing to do with that garbage.

Prognosticating and theorizing is one thing, but blatantly speculating without all the facts? Thats in an entirely different league. The Busch League.

What facts have myself or others left out? The fact that Hayward looks pretty good in the summer league and scoring 22 points on 7 shots? I'm confused.

 

[write4u]

Hayward looks like the real deal to me. He's got size, fairly good quickness for his size, good ball handling skills and vision, a nice stroke, and a good basketball IQ, and he's only 20 years old. He's just the kind of player Jerry drools over. He'll be a lot better than Harpring. Like I've been saying, he's a 6-8 Horny.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Hopefully without the knees of Hornacek.

But yes. I was quite impressed with his play. I would have liked to see more aggressive to the hole stuff, but he seems much more refined than the other players skill wise.

 

[sirkickyass]

a) So does DWade... Point is, he getting points without dominating the ball.

Given that Dwayne Wade is #1 in the league in usage rate he's probably not the comparison you want to draw when trying to make that point.

In any event, the issue is simply as follows: the stat means nothing because it can twisted in the same form to apply to a number of other players that we already know aren't NBA quality.

Put another way: Gordan Hayward is barely cracking double digits against non-NBA level talent.

 

[twentytwo]

The point:

Gordon Hayward has had a positive effect on almost every single play where he has touched the ball. It isn't his fault Gaines feels like he needs to play like Morris Almond. Hayward has been productive and incredibly efficient in the time he has been given so far.

Anyone who hasn't seen this hasn't been watching the games. Stop just looking at the box score.

 

[UGLI baby]

The point:

Gordon Hayward has had a positive effect on almost every single play where he has touched the ball. It isn't his fault Gaines feels like he needs to play like Morris Almond. Hayward has been productive and incredibly efficient in the time he has been given so far.

Anyone who hasn't seen this hasn't been watching the games. Stop just looking at the box score.

Holler.

 

[Jazz4ever]

How many players have sucked in the Summer League only to turn out to be great players in the NBA?

Derrick Rose is the most recent, memory isn't good enough to remember the previous ones.

 

[txjazzfan]

I think the best part about Hayward so far is that he is showing how bball smart he is. He is letting the game come to him and not trying to do to much. He is a great passer and flows very well within the offense. Also he runs extremely well without the ball. I have to admit that I get turned on thinking about him playing next to Dwill and within the Sloan offense.

I have been impressed with Hayward so far. He looked a lot more comfortable in today's game. It is kinda hard to tell a lot about what any of the guards and wings can do because the freakin point guards we have out there have blinders on and jack up everything. It will be nice to see what he can do when he has Deron setting him up.

 

[prodigy]

I definitely saw some of hayword's strengths today: great knock down shooter, good rebounder for his size, high basketball IQ, ability to get to the free throw line. yes it's just summer league ball but it's a good start.

 

[vslice02]

I've been impressed with his passing. Pretty quick first-step and consistently gets into the lane, although he usually looks to dish or kick out rather than score.

 

[calijazz]

What facts have myself or others left out? The fact that Hayward looks pretty good in the summer league and scoring 22 points on 7 shots? I'm confused.

Hayward has had 22 points on 7 shots? Really? I haven't seen that posted ANYWHERE.

The fact of the matter is, is that Hayward is playing hoping to not to make a mistake. If you watched the game, you could see that. I believe Ty Corbin made a comment along those lines. There were points where he passed up wide open jumpers. He just doesn't feel comfortable in a role that requires him taking a lot of shots at this point. That's why his shot totals are so low through two games (also, 4 of his points in today's game came off of FT's from intentional fouls). To his credit, he's made the most of his shots and been very efficient and unselfish. He's also made some clutch buckets. But I still would like to see him be a little more aggressive in looking for his shot, especially on a summer league team. He needs to find that balance of patience and aggressiveness.

Honestly, his offensive game isn't what I was worried about to being with. I figured his shooting would probably come around because he's shown the ability before. Defense is my main concern on the NBA level...