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Another solid post. I'll admit when I originally post the trade I thought Lowry was 28. If I was mistaken about his age I'd likely not post the idea. Even though I certainly don't think the trades as terrible as most here.
The trade even if Lowry was 28 is one of the worst I've ever seen. Toronto gets a kings ransom, The Jazz get royally screwed. A LMAO at this trade is more than a fair assessment of it.
 
What I expect and how he preformed are two different things. If someone is making the point that player X is greater than Y it's not based on expectations or potential.

By this logic there's no reason Kobe should've had after what he did his first two seasons or Jermaine O'Neal after 6 seasons
 
By this logic there's no reason Kobe should've had after what he did his first two seasons or Jermaine O'Neal after 6 seasons

Again if we're grading a player you do so off of what they show you now. Their potential is another discussion. So if say a player makes a team better it based on their current production levels.
 
You act as if young players always make significant enough improvements. Like you never heard of Kwame Brown, Darko Milicic, Johnny Flynn, Anthony Bennett, Jimmer Fredette, etc.
Any of those guys improved their team by starting in their rookie year?

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Any of those guys improved their team by starting in their rookie year?

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That's not even the argument. You said he'll be better than Crowder next year. Based on hope. Which is fine if that's honestly how you feel. My point is I can't give credit for improvement until the improvement is witnessed on court.
 
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