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Government to shut down at Midnight

Rubashov said:
Its not a joke if you were planning on getting paid to I dunno pay for your Christmas, or rent or stuff. A lot of people live pay to pay, this is frankly an appalling thing to do to them. This week for example my pay day falls on Tuesday, its unlikely that I will get paid until Thursday of Friday at the earliest, for me its not a hardship but I would imagine for a number of staff at my work, especially the cleaners and kitchen staff who are fairly low paid it could be.
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I went through two shutdowns. Essentially a week+ of extra paid vacation. No one was complaining. It was a few years back, but as I recall, it didn't even effect the date I got paid.
 
JAZZGASM said:
These shutdowns are a joke. The government still has many people working (and getting paid). Those off work always get paid after the gov't get funded (essentially paid vacation for gov't employees).
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They aren’t a joke to hundred of thousands of families. There are “essential” positions and agencies. Ones that do not shut down and are required to work. Yes, they have always gotten paid. but it’s not a guarantee or even required. Special legislation has to be passed each time. But it’s mandatory you show up, with a very limited operational capacity. If you has scheduled leave it’s cancelled and any no shows can be used as justification to fire you. A few years ago we shut down for 21 days. Had to contact creditors and loan holders. Get bitched at by angry public daily and had to worry about how long it would last and how long I would be able to feed my kids.

Then the public. Many lose out on jobs, housing, state benefits...all because they cannot secure the documents and proofs they need to qualify. Proofs and documents provided by a government agency. Like a social Security card.

So yeah, in DC it’s a joke. For millions of other Americans it is an EXTREMELY harsh reality.
 
JAZZGASM said:
These shutdowns are a joke. The government still has many people working (and getting paid). Those off work always get paid after the gov't get funded (essentially paid vacation for gov't employees).
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Yeah this post certainly didn’t age well. The most ignorant among us have the biggest mouths I’ve found.

I don’t think you understand the wide ranging effects of these government shutdowns. They most certainly aren’t jokes to millions of Americans right now. Personally, I’d like to see even more pressure put on Donald by the media and democrats. Trump wanted the mantle, right?
 
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ONE LOVE said:
So what's Trump's excuse for not being able to get the Mexicans to pay for the Wall as he'd promised?
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That was dumb **** he said during the campaign that was obviously unrealistic then. Since becoming the President he hasn't been pushing that line nearly as much, and when he has, the times I'm familiar with, he has spun it that they will be paying indirectly based on his most wonderful trade deals and such.

There's no excuse at this point. No one ever really expected Mexico to pay for the wall.
 
Bulletproof said:
That was dumb **** he said during the campaign that was obviously unrealistic then. Since becoming the President he hasn't been pushing that line nearly as much, and when he has, the times I'm familiar with, he has spun it that they will be paying indirectly based on his most wonderful trade deals and such.

There's no excuse at this point. No one ever really expected Mexico to pay for the wall.
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Awww yes. The wonderful trade deals have yet to be ratified in congress? The wonderful trade deals that Donald can’t even begin to describe how they’ll pay for the construction and maintenance of a wall? Those trade deals?! Lol
 
Bulletproof said:
That was dumb **** he said during the campaign that was obviously unrealistic then. Since becoming the President he hasn't been pushing that line nearly as much, and when he has, the times I'm familiar with, he has spun it that they will be paying indirectly based on his most wonderful trade deals and such.

There's no excuse at this point. No one ever really expected Mexico to pay for the wall.
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He mentioned something about all the extra tariffs the Government is getting from the Chinese though in that press conference.

Shouldn't he be able to use all that extra tariffs (which was all his idea) and pay for the wall? I mean it was his idea and they wouldn't have that if it wasn't for him?
 
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