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Greatest Athlete Ever

Lakers_Slapper said:
Michael Jordan IMO by far. This is a guy that coming into the league had major weaknesses (defense and outside shooting) He worked on those weaknesses making them some of his greatest strengths. He got cut from his high school basketball team and he worked hard making sure that he would never not give nothing but his all ever again. He didn't do good when moving into baseball, but when returning from basketball after his first retirement, it only took about 2 months and everyone knew he was the king once again. 6 championships never seeing a game 7. And this is with retiring for 2 years. Not to mention when you look at the Chicago Bulls roster for the years they won, you will see a good team, but not great considering the competition. It was all Jordan. If you would like to argue then ask yourself why the Bulls weren't even close to a good team during his retirement with almost the same lineup minus Jordan. If the game was on the line, the ball was in Jordan's hands and he delivered.
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Bah. It's not even clear he was the best basketball player ever.

First of all, it was never "all Jordan." There was this guy named Scottie Pippen. When Jordan retired, Pippen led the Bulls in all major statistical categories, and then only dropped 2 regular-season games without Jordan (55-27 instead of 57-25). Then in the playoffs, they lost in seven games to the Knicks, who would go on to take the Rockets to seven games in the finals. In other words, Jordan left and they didn't even miss him that much.

Second, there are lots of players to compete with him for the title of best basketball player ever. Chamerberlain was more dominant statistics-wise. Russell won way more titles, 11 in 13 years. Abdul-Jabbar won six titles (same as Jordan) and six MVPs (one more than Jordan), and was far, far better than Jordan during his college career (three titles and three MVPs in three years... Jordan only won one NCAA title, and he wasn't even the best player on his team, James Worthy was).

You can believe Jordan is the best b-ball player ever all you want. That's certainly a legit opinion. But if you say it's "by far," then you've simply been blinded by the Jordan hype machine. And if you think he's the best athlete ever "by far," then you're just delusional. He was only good in one sport (and as I've said, not even the clear winner in basketball), and his pure athletic ability wasn't anywhere near world-class track-and-field standards. The only category in which Jordan is clearly the greatest athlete ever is in advertising and hype -- no athlete was ever so well marketed. Which is more due to David Falk than anyone else.
 
My vote goes to Nolan Ryan! 324 wins.......7 no hitters......12 one hitters......5,000 strikeouts, 1000 more than the next clown who is already retired.......two of the no hitters after he turned 40! Plus, a host of other pitching records no one will ever top!
 
carolinajazz said:
My vote goes to Nolan Ryan! 324 wins.......7 no hitters......12 one hitters......5,000 strikeouts, 1000 more than the next clown who is already retired.......two of the no hitters after he turned 40! Plus, a host of other pitching records no one will ever top!
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Plus, he beat the crap out of Robin Ventura. That has to count for something, right?
 
Shaq in his prime.

Never seen someone soooo big and strong yet so coordinated and agile.
 
Not saying he is the most athletic or even in the top ten, but how athletic do you need to be to be a starting pg in the nba and be only 5ft3, and he was pretty damn good during is first 8 or 9 years. Being 5-3 and having his success is pretty remarkable.

Thought I'd throw him out there as an honorable mention.
 
Just to respond to PKM...

If you measure athletic ability for all living things, sure maybe it's Secretariat, but I would imagine the most athletic human vs the least athletic horse, the horse probably destroys the human, who ever that is.
 
You guys are morons if you think that running fast is athletic. A horse couldn't dribble a basketball, catch a football or hit a baseball.
 
^^^^what the fuhhhhh!! ******* slipped through the filter! MODZ! PLEASE CENSOR MY POST SO I DON'T GET FRACTED!
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Just to respond to PKM...

If you measure athletic ability for all living things, sure maybe it's Secretariat, but I would imagine the most athletic human vs the least athletic horse, the horse probably destroys the human, who ever that is.
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Put an MMA fighter in a ring with a horse and we'll all be eating horse meat for dinner. Humans are pretty damn tough. We don't give ourselves credit.
 
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