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Gun Control is a ridiculous debate. We should just stop making bullets or better yet, not let children under a certain age gather in large groups. Maybe only 3 kids at a time surrounding the ice cream truck. Perhaps we should pass a law that all kids should be home schooled which would eliminate school shootings with a 100% success rate. An easier way would be to identify possible future "shooters" by implementing and enforcing rigorous screening measures. Ya know, young, white, males who spend hours playing video games, surfing the net on message boards and for porn. Half this board membership would be undergoing questioning by the FBI.

There was a mass murder of 19 children under the age of 6 at a daycare in Oklahoma in 1995, before the majority of the posters on this board were out of elementary school. No guns or assault rifles were used.

There are no absolutes in life. A certain percentage of the population is crazy and will do crazy things no matter how you attempt to legislate them. As bordy pointed out, a percentage of the gun carrying police officers are just as crazy as the people they are chasing. Likewise, I would guess a large majority of those carrying concealed weapons would crap their pants if they had to actually use it in a real life situation. An intruder breaking into your house is a hell of a lot different than trying shoot somebody across a crowded food court. Everybody is a bad *** at the target the range.

Horrible crap happens. Get used to it. Luckily it only happens to a small percentage of the population. Most of us escape it, some of us don't. If you live long enough, bad stuff will happen to you or somebody you love.

The media wants you outraged. Their whole purpose in life is to make people like Thriller crap their pants and shake his "tiny fists" every time some bad happens.
 
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Also, off topic: Anyone know why i can no longer put spaces between my sentences/paragraphs? Like when i hit enter a few times to make a gap between paragraphs then i post the reply, everything is bunched together.

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Maybe this has already been discussed.
Why did a single mom living in a decent neighborhood need so much firepower.
She has more than one assault type weapon in her house and they were not safely secured.
Seems odd. A lot of questions to be answered.
What a senseless tragedy.
 
Sigh. This isn't about gun control. This is about sick individuals using said guns to commit crimes. There are many stories of people using knives and other weapons to kill 20+ people. Should we ban those, as well? While we're at it, just ban absolutely everything that could be used as a weapon.
 
Maybe this has already been discussed.
Why did a single mom living in a decent neighborhood need so much firepower.
She has more than one assault type weapon in her house and they were not safely secured.
Seems odd. A lot of questions to be answered.
What a senseless tragedy.

Yeah it is a little odd, but definitely legal.... and rightfully so.
It is a senseless tragedy, but gun control does nothing to stop these acts of violence.
The only real answer is to get rid of these gun free zones, so teachers and school officials can act fast in order to save lives.
 
While we're at it, just ban absolutely everything that could be used as a weapon.

It wouldn't matter if you banned everything under the sun, unlawful individuals will always do whatever they want.
The answer is full and complete legalization of all weapons, so parents, teachers, and school officials can protect their kids and themselves from said unlawful individuals.
 
The answer is full and complete legalization of all weapons, so parents, teachers, and school officials can protect their kids and themselves from said unlawful individuals.

Yeah, as a teacher, that's why I got into this profession. To get into movie-style shootouts with random whackos.
 
Yeah, as a teacher, that's why I got into this profession. To get into movie-style shootouts with random whackos.

So you actually think these gun free zones are a good idea?
Considering some of the largest mass killings in our countries history have all happened in these zones.
 
So you actually think these gun free zones are a good idea?
Considering some of the largest mass killings in our countries history have all happened in these zones.

No, I actually think that the solution to a crazed madman shooting randomly in my classroom is for me to pull out a bigger, badder gun, and also start shooting randomly. Good grief, do you read what you write?

I'm a teacher. I teach. That's what I do. I don't have guns training, and I hardly think the Faculty of Teaching would provide me with any. I also don't think that even you're suggesting that I walk around with a loaded gun while teaching, so presumably I'd have to get the gun, remove the safety(unless you actually want the gun with the safety off in my drawer where the first kid who gets a chance WILL steal it), then turn it on the bad dude.

Now, at this point, the bad dude has had some time to shoot. He doesn't exactly announce himself and chivalrously allow me time to draw my gun. He's probably shot me first if he's got any sense, and he probably does as they plan these things in advance. If he somehow hasn't, he's shot some kids and created enough panic among the rest that I'm much more likely to hit a kid(you know, 30 of them, but one bad dude) than I am to hit him. He's also probably got some sort of an assault rifle, and as was the case with the Joker guy, body armour. I have a clip holding 6 bullets. Unless I am running some sort of an aim-bot, I don't like my odds. Either way, the headlines tomorrow are either "Brave teacher dies in a pointless gunfight with a madman" or "Madman shoots 6 kids. Brave teacher shoots him. Also shoots 5 kids himself."

Look, we can debate gun control and all that, but suggesting we'd be better off if absolutely everyone was armed seems like trolling.
 
Look, we can debate gun control and all that, but suggesting we'd be better off if absolutely everyone was armed seems like trolling.

I'm confused. Not taking a stance here, but where did he say we'd be better off if absolutely everyone was armed?

I think he just said to make it so there weren't gun-free zones and to legalize weapons. That's completely different. He's not advocating being armed if you don't want to be armed. He's just saying you should have that option if you desire. For you, it's obvious you don't want that option, and that's fine. He's not disagreeing with you.

Look, I know Silencer can be abrasive at times, but I don't understand your vitrol.
 
I think he just said to make it so there weren't gun-free zones and to legalize weapons. That's completely different. He's not advocating being armed if you don't want to be armed. He's just saying you should have that option if you desire. For you, it's obvious you don't want that option, and that's fine. He's not disagreeing with you.

He's suggesting that schools be a free-for-all as far as guns go. A school! Again, I'm not talking here as pro-gun or anti-gun, I'm talking as a teacher. I can't buy enough pens because they constantly go missing and he expects a gun not to fall into kids' hands.
 
He's suggesting that schools be a free-for-all as far as guns go. A school! Again, I'm not talking here as pro-gun or anti-gun, I'm talking as a teacher. I can't buy enough pens because they constantly go missing and he expects a gun not to fall into kids' hands.

look depending on how you carry your gun.
responsible gun carrying it would never ever ever go missing.
it will always be at once side from the moment you get out of bed till the moment you go to sleep. your gun has to be always be by your side.
it needs to be an extension of yourself.

that imho is how you "carry" a gun.
it being an extension of yourself, withouth it you feel naked.

with that said 98% of the population does not have that dedication.

with that being said such a person is a law abiding citizen. i know a couple of guys like that.
they are law abiding citizen. they wont go in gun free zones or go but feel uncomfortable/naked.

if you got 1 of 2 school officials who are like that i dont see why they are not allowed to carry.
or at university some of those students.

making it a free for all every teachers gets a gun. does not solve the problem
 
We have already tried the "figure out and help mental health issues" approach. (There are more people on paxil, prozac, zanex, etc etc, and also more people seeing psychiatrists/counselors than ever before).

I disagree that loading people with issues up on antidepressants is "figuring out and helping mental health issues". That's just the modern day version of institutionalizing them. Besides, the issue (in cases like we're discussing) do not start with a disgruntled person. They start with the circumstances that lead to alienation, disenfranchisement, resentment, and ultimately rage. Throw in a media culture that glorifies violence, and it's only a matter of time.

IMO, if we simply started treating each other better incidents like this would nearly cease.
 
Perhaps we should pass a law that all kids should be home schooled which would eliminate school shootings with a 100% success rate.

Come on bro, think about that for a second. If every kid is home schooled, that means every home with a kid is a school. Whenever somebody is killed with a gun in a home that a child lives in, it would be a school shooting. Nice try, though.
 
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