Guru thread.. questions inside.

[stitches]

Thanks. My misunderstanding.
SO we could have offered Hayward a 5-yr max contract and not have had him count as a designated player?

Once his contract have expired, yes. If it was extension(i.e. if we offered him a 5 year contract-extension last year) - no... I think... but I am not 100% certain. Have to check that...

 

[Qman]

Once his contract have expired, yes. If it was extension(i.e. if we offered him a 5 year contract-extension last year) - no... I think... but I am not 100% certain. Have to check that...

We could have offered Hayward a 5 year deal that started at 25% of the cap with 7.5% raises. However if Hayward like George made the all star team or an All-NBA team his could would have morphed into the 30% deal. Dunno if both are considered designated player contracts. Pacers had the same situation last year I think.

 

[GVC]

SO we could have offered Hayward a 5-yr max contract and not have had him count as a designated player?

Yes.

 

[GVC]

No, BUT there is a max number of players that can be "designated players"(5 year contract-extension, as opposed to 4-year). Those are usually signed to max deals.

Minor correction: The first year of a designated player's contract extension has to be at the max.

 

[franklin]

They should have designated Favors with 7.5% declines to get even one more year of his great value. Have I mentioned I'm in love with the Favors contract?

 

[Dr. Jones]

As am I, Frank.. not many we've ever had better, I'd guess.

 

[b_line]

Nope. If you give a player 5 yrs., he is your "Designated Player." That's one reason the Jazz only offered 4 years to Favors (as did Sacramento with Cousins). Also why it made more sense for Utah to wait for an offer sheet to match with Hayward. He could only get an offer sheet for 4 years, which automatically means he's NOT a "Designated Player." I'm sure he asked for a 5 year deal from Utah with 7.5% raises vs. the 4 year with 4.5% he received from Charlotte.

BTW a little addendum on the "designated player" - it is reserved only for players on rookie contracts and it covers only EXTENSIONS of the rookie-contract - i.e. you can sign a veteran for 5-years extension without him becoming the "designated player". And one more caveat - it doesn't apply to second round picks or undrafted players. You can sign a second round pick to a 5-year extension without him taking the "designated player" spot.

Yep. That's what I thought.