Hardy Says Collins is a 5

[Handlogten's Heros]

We're one of the worse offenses in the league, so it's not like we're risking a lot by changing things. I think there's opportunity to do a little bit more PnR and specifically when it comes to Collins at the 5. Hardy has sided with using Collins as a spacing 5 more than a rolling 5 around the basket. I think it benefits all parties to use the good roll man as a roll man.

Sure... run it a few more times or whatever. BUT if the floor isn't spaced I don't see teams having a real hard time with it. If the ballhandler isn't a threat to shoot off the dribble you can drop the big or just have the guard duck under the pick. Maybe its better than what they are running.

 

[Park Bites]

People?

This is Will Hardy, the head coach.

You have to forgive me. I posted that after a 12 hour straight drive from California to Utah because my mother-in-law was in the hospital with pneumonia. Probably didn't come out as consise as I wanted it too.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

I've been avalanched with work for the last few weeks, so my attention has been diverted from the Jazz. Can someone who has been watching closely tell me if Hardy is running some of the wrinkles explained in this video? It seems like this dribble handoff into the PnR would be helpful to our guards.

 

[KqWIN]

Sure... run it a few more times or whatever. BUT if the floor isn't spaced I don't see teams having a real hard time with it. If the ballhandler isn't a threat to shoot off the dribble you can drop the big or just have the guard duck under the pick. Maybe its better than what they are running.

There's not a high bar to clear in the first place, and whatever these "other things" are, they are also effected by poor spacing.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Sure... run it a few more times or whatever. BUT if the floor isn't spaced I don't see teams having a real hard time with it. If the ballhandler isn't a threat to shoot off the dribble you can drop the big or just have the guard duck under the pick. Maybe its better than what they are running.

why are you doing this to yourself?

If your answer is anything other than "to entertain NAOS", then I'll be confused.

 

[KqWIN]

When I pictured John Collins with this team, I pictured us using him in what was his best role is and the reason why he got $100 mil. When he's at the 5 and Kessler is off the court, I think the team gains more if he's playing in Kessler's role rather than if he's spacing out. His percentage of shots at the rim does jump up quite a bit when Kessler is off (and so does the overall offense), but I think we can push it even further. For example, KO has a much larger shift towards the basket when Kessler if off the court than Collins. His percentage of attempts at the rim almost doubles. Why can we not have the same shift with Collins? I understand that our ballhandlers are not necessarily the best passers, but that is more reason to have a better target around the hoop.

 

[Hearsky]

Anybody else curious how much Hardy was consulted on the acquisition of Collins? I assumed he was a big part of the conversation, but the vibe I get from Will is DA kind of said "Here's your new PF, make it work."

 

[infection]

I've been avalanched with work for the last few weeks, so my attention has been diverted from the Jazz.

I bet life would be so much better if there was more attention paid to the Jazz.

Anybody else curious how much Hardy was consulted on the acquisition of Collins? I assumed he was a big part of the conversation, but the vibe I get from Will is DA kind of said "Here's your new PF, make it work."

DA has already come out and said that his job is to get talent and that he’s not too concerned about fit and that with his job being talent, it’s on the coaching staff and players to figure the rest out.

 

[Hearsky]

DA has already come out and said that his job is to get talent and that he’s not too concerned about fit and that with his job being talent, it’s on the coaching staff and players to figure the rest out.

I missed that. If true, that is an extremely antiquated and ****** model of management.

 

[Fosto]

I missed that. If true, that is an extremely antiquated and ****** model of management.

Fit matters when you're a good team trying to take the next step. For a team like the Jazz, I think it makes sense to just acquire talent and worry about fit later.

 

[infection]

Fit matters when you're a good team trying to take the next step. For a team like the Jazz, I think it makes sense to just acquire talent and worry about fit later.

Yeah, but you also need to be a little selective about what “acquiring talent” means. For instance, John Collins, THT, and soon-to-be Zach LaVine.

 

[Fosto]

Yeah, but you also need to be a little selective about what “acquiring talent” means. For instance, John Collins, THT, and soon-to-be Zach LaVine.

THT was a good gamble. Might still be, I'm not sure. It's only 11m a year, so it's not like he's breaking the bank. Collins was had for free, and the Jazz are not going anywhere any time soon. He'll be worth something as an expiring at a point where it could matter, or the Jazz might be able to offload him for free (he's not terrible). Lavine is just speculation.