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Hayward's Trade Bonus is a myth

franklin said:
Trade kickers are not possible on max contracts. Whew! Jazz dodged a bullet there.
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That doesn't seem quite right.

"A player's salary added to his trade bonus cannot exceed the maximum for that season (based on years of service)."
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q98

The way I read that, is that if the max level increases faster than Hayward's contract increases, then he can indeed have a trade bonus for the difference.
 
Makes no difference. Matching would still be a piss-poor decision just to cater to ticket holders. It's a short term solution to selling tickets, while limiting our ability to improve over the next 4 years. We've already seen a major ****up when the FO didn't dump Sap and Al at the right time. That hurt the rebuild and so will a mega-overpay for Gordo.
 
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freakazoid said:
Makes no difference. Matching would still be a piss-poor decision just to cater to ticket holders. It's a short term solution to selling tickets, while limiting our ability to improve over the next 4 years. We've already seen a major ****up when the FO didn't dump Sap and Al at the right time. That hurt the rebuild and so will a mega-overpay for Gordo.
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I get the feeling you don't want the Jazz FO to match on Hayward.

I might be reading too much into your comments.
 
Triangle Man said:
I get the feeling you don't want the Jazz FO to match on Hayward.

I might be reading too much into your comments.
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freakazod said:
Matching would still be a piss-poor decision just to cater to ticket holders.
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No, I think he meant that matching JUST to cater to season ticket holders is a mistake. If there are other reasons for matching, then that's ok.
Hope that helps.
 
Core4 said:
No, I think he meant that matching JUST to cater to season ticket holders is a mistake. If there are other reasons for matching, then that's ok.
Hope that helps.
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He has other posts, you didn't feel the sarcasm in my post?

He's been pretty straight forward about what he thinks and it's not just about catering to season ticket holders.
 
colton said:
That doesn't seem quite right.

"A player's salary added to his trade bonus cannot exceed the maximum for that season (based on years of service)."
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q98

The way I read that, is that if the max level increases faster than Hayward's contract increases, then he can indeed have a trade bonus for the difference.
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Thanks. Can you change the title to say "Hayward's Trade Bonus is a math"?
 
The kicker is only really relevant in the 4th year of his contract when he has 7 years of service and will be eligible for 30% of the cap. Until then, the cap has to go up very much for his kicker to have any real impact. I have to say that Hayward`s agent has played this one beautifully. If Hayward never gets to another level, he has the four year max. If he really makes it, he can be a free agent just in time to be eligible for the 30% salary.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
The kicker is only really relevant in the 4th year of his contract when he has 7 years of service and will be eligible for 30% of the cap. Until then, the cap has to go up very much for his kicker to have any real impact. I have to say that Hayward`s agent has played this one beautifully. If Hayward never gets to another level, he has the four year max. If he really makes it, he can be a free agent just in time to be eligible for the 30% salary.
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I was surprised when I looked it up at Sham Sports and saw 30+ players have trade kickers in their contracts and most are 15%. If Hayward really, really wants to leave SLC he can agree to adjust or waive the kicker. Probably a non-issue since he just opts out in 3 years. This arrangement is pretty common. Remember, both Deron and CP3 took shorter contracts after their rookie deals. Paul George didn't have too because he was given a maximum 5/30% extension.
 
Core4 said:
I was surprised when I looked it up at Sham Sports and saw 30+ players have trade kickers in their contracts and most are 15%. If Hayward really, really wants to leave SLC he can agree to adjust or waive the kicker. Probably a non-issue since he just opts out in 3 years. This arrangement is pretty common. Remember, both Deron and CP3 took shorter contracts after their rookie deals. Paul George didn't have too because he was given a maximum 5/30% extension.
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I responded to this in another thread, but there is no way he opts out in three. Unless he magically becomes much better than we all know he is.

Agreed about him waiving the trade kicker.
 
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