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Bane is a much better defender than Herro. I see them on a similar level offensively, but Bane's defense makes him much more valuable.

I think he's also much better on offense. Way more efficient, and just a much smarter player right now even though Herro may have a tad more shot creation. A lot of the metrics have the gap on offense as wide as the gap on defense. I don't know if I'd go that far myself, but I do think Herro has a ways to go to get on that level.
 
Bane is a much better defender than Herro. I see them on a similar level offensively, but Bane's defense makes him much more valuable.
Definitely agree Bane is a better defender, but is the difference level that massive?

According to RAPTOR, there was 1.4 differential this year. According to BReference, their DBPM is on average about 1.0 different year to year. So, at least as far as advanced stats go, the difference is real, but isn't massive.

I would also rate Memphis's defensive talent as being better than Miami's throughout both their careers, so I would say Bane has had more help defensively.
 
I think he's also much better on offense. Way more efficient, and just a much smarter player right now even though Herro may have a tad more shot creation. A lot of the metrics have the gap on offense as wide as the gap on defense. I don't know if I'd go that far myself, but I do think Herro has a ways to go to get on that level.
The levels I'm referring to are pretty broad. Players who create more of their own offense are going to be less efficient, so that part doesn't bother me too much.
 
Definitely agree Bane is a better defender, but is the difference level that massive?

According to RAPTOR, there was 1.4 differential this year. According to BReference, their DBPM is on average about 1.0 different year to year. So, at least as far as advanced stats go, the difference is real, but isn't massive.

I would also rate Memphis's defensive talent as being better than Miami's throughout both their careers, so I would say Bane has had more help defensively.

Yeah, I did a quick look just now and Bane doesn't come out as high as I would expect on some of the defensive metrics. Eye test tells me Bane is capable of much higher defense though.
 
According to RAPTOR, there was 1.4 differential this year. According to BReference, their DBPM is on average about 1.0 different year to year. So, at least as far as advanced stats go, the difference is real, but isn't massive.

So , that's interesting because I checked his TAINT rating and the differential hit the Boyo line in 6 different places. Which I'm sure you all know is, like, nuts because the standard deviation typically doesn't even register, unless you are looking at TAINT plus 2. I feel like though if you are going the Plus 2 route, at least monitor the expressions predicted or else your going to get lost in whether or not there is sag in the data bundle. The last thing we want is to have to calculate the sag depth, am I right?!?
 
He raises the floor for sure as being a better player right now, even If at the worst contract of the bunch, yet you asked why rather trade both and keep Olynyk, not If they liked Herro better
I mean, it just means they like KO better, not that Sexton/THT arent "keeper" quality.

Obviously KO is way better than Sexton.

He's better than THT right now, but THT has a higher ceiling if he really progresses this year. But it's also going to be much easier to keep KO than it will be THT, so that's probably part of the equation.
 
I mean, it just means they like KO better, not that Sexton/THT arent "keeper" quality.

Obviously KO is way better than Sexton.

He's better than THT right now, but THT has a higher ceiling if he really progresses this year. But it's also going to be much easier to keep KO than it will be THT, so that's probably part of the equation.

Please stop it with this nonsense. You’re embarrassing yourself.
 
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