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Hekate

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I think this team does miss having a natural leader. It's not Ingles or Conley--they're vets, but too nice. Probably true for Mitchell as well. Rudy isn't nice, but the way he went about making his comments shows he doesn't have great instinct for it. Why couldn't he just say it straight that the perimeter defense needs to improve? Better if Rudy dropped the passive aggressiveness and just called guys out--in a not-personal, constructive way of course. Think the team would respond better. "The perimeter defense needs to improve. We need more effort." I don't think anyone would get offended by that. praising one of Mitchell's biggest rivals in the league is obvious and, if I was Mitchell, that would peeve me. I wouldn't want my teammate to play games like that in the media.

That being said, doesn't seem like it was a big deal.
What makes you think he didn't say it in practice?

It wasn't like nobody knew what the problem was. It has been a focus for sometime and even the main culprits were admitting they need to play some defense. Going vanilla with stuff like "we need more effort" which has been told since the beginning of the season wasn't very effective anyways. Sometimes truths need to hit hard and what Gobert said wasn't even that hard.
 


oneye

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I will say... the body language and interaction between the 2 is very promising. It was noticeable imo... I'm hoping both guys are pulling together now and they give us nothing to speculate on.

Maybe the absence of Rudy made Don realize he needs him. Rudy was super engaged on both ends... Jokic still does whatever he wants but Rudy frustrated him a couple times.
Lol, how many times are you going to hope the public showing is true lol? Yeah Donovan’s gonna pretend it’s all cool and fine in front of a camera, and give Rudy a Pat on the back….in front of the camera, because he has his image to protect. He can’t look like the problem or like he’s feeding into any of it. They both have their issues, I just tend to like Rudy more personally because he doesn’t wear the PR mask Donovan constantly does.

TLDR: Donovan and Rudy are good players that can play together and be good, but will never be great and win a title because they both have their shortcomings both on the court and off.
 

oneye

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Imagine getting worked up that an NBA player is a diva, has a big head, or is trying to further his brand through PR that might not be reality.

A celebrity who became super rich young playing a game is full of himself and isn't always what he portrays in public?!!! What???

Trade everyone who isn't going to be with the Jazz forever! You can't leave us! You owe us everything since I occasionally go to games and sometimes buy subscriptions for entertainment that includes you.
Nice and good, but I’m not required to like a dude who’s actually a douche hiding being a PR screen.
 

Ron Mexico

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Nice and good, but I’m not required to like a dude who’s actually a douche hiding being a PR screen.
No ****. You're not required to like any players. Its very amusing to read your posts though. This version of you is slightly more amusing than you two years ago posting a million love threads to Mitchell. Did you remember to wish him happy birthday?

FYI, pretty much every NBA player is a douche and all of them are hiding behind some level of PR screen. I would hate to see you get your heart broken again.
 

oneye

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No ****. You're not required to like any players. Its very amusing to read your posts though. This version of you is slightly more amusing than you two years ago posting a million love threads to Mitchell. Did you remember to wish him happy birthday?

FYI, pretty much every NBA player is a douche and all of them are hiding behind some level of PR screen. I would hate to see you get your heart broken again.
There’s levels to douchiness. If someone just a douche that’s fine. And you’re right most are, but there are levels to how far you go to prove you’re something you’re not. Good discussion sweety.
 

Ron Mexico

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There’s levels to douchiness. If someone just a douche that’s fine. And you’re right most are, but there are levels to how far you go to prove you’re something you’re not. Good discussion sweety.
Just looking out for ya, little buddy. Its hard to see someone get their heart broken like you, when it doesnt need to happen. Its okay, you got attached right away to him. It was kinda cute in a, he should have got a restraining order right away, kind of way. Its even harder to watch someone turn into a bitter, angry, jealous person who got dumped and thinks they are owed something. At least you have a new shtick as a troll who endlessly hates on him instead of loves him. Maybe try to find some reasonable middle ground? It doesnt have to be one of the extremes.

No one wants to watch this again with you.

At least you will always have the record for most threads created about Mitchell for the rest of his life.
 

oneye

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Just looking out for ya, little buddy. Its hard to see someone get their heart broken like you, when it doesnt need to happen. Its okay, you got attached right away to him. It was kinda cute in a, he should have got a restraining order right away, kind of way. Its even harder to watch someone turn into a bitter, angry, jealous person who got dumped and thinks they are owed something. At least you have a new shtick as a troll who endlessly hates on him instead of loves him. Maybe try to find some reasonable middle ground? It doesnt have to be one of the extremes.

No one wants to watch this again with you.

At least you will always have the record for most threads created about Mitchell for the rest of his life.
I just want the dude off the team bud, for plenty of reasons, and his value ain’t getting higher than it is currently.
 

LogGrad98

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It cracks me up how much traction a "rumor" like Mitchell wanting a bigger market can get. Nothing was ever even confirmed, it was nearly pure conjecture and smacked of a guy asking somebody that knows DM "hey your guy wants to play in NY some day right? Maybe Miami?" and the guys says "yeah sure, I guess" then turning around and reporting it like a scoop. But I have read so so many "rumors" and trade ideas lately that start with some version of "Mitchell wants out of Utah, so here is how he can come to [team X]", followed by ridiculously one-sided "trades" to get him here. One of them has him going to Philly for Simmons and Harris, but of course also with the Jazz giving up Bojan, Ingles, O'Neale and/or JC and picks. Yeah we are gutting our team and destroying our team identity to get Harris and Simmons. Saw another one that had us sending Mitchell, Bogey, Ingles and JC to Miami for a combination of no-names and Herro as the big draw. Absolutely hilarious how these guys approach this kind of ****. So stupid.
 

infection

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It cracks me up how much traction a "rumor" like Mitchell wanting a bigger market can get. Nothing was ever even confirmed, it was nearly pure conjecture and smacked of a guy asking somebody that knows DM "hey your guy wants to play in NY some day right? Maybe Miami?" and the guys says "yeah sure, I guess" then turning around and reporting it like a scoop. But I have read so so many "rumors" and trade ideas lately that start with some version of "Mitchell wants out of Utah, so here is how he can come to [team X]", followed by ridiculously one-sided "trades" to get him here. One of them has him going to Philly for Simmons and Harris, but of course also with the Jazz giving up Bojan, Ingles, O'Neale and/or JC and picks. Yeah we are gutting our team and destroying our team identity to get Harris and Simmons. Saw another one that had us sending Mitchell, Bogey, Ingles and JC to Miami for a combination of no-names and Herro as the big draw. Absolutely hilarious how these guys approach this kind of ****. So stupid.
Trades and rumors of trades.
 

oneye

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For the way the Utah Jazz fanbase treats him and Rudy so differently, do you blame him?
Maybe he’s the reason he gets treated differently and more and more fans can see which if the two guys has always actually been on our side?
 


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