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How good or bad is Enes Kanter. Really.

And kanter is who? For the sake of our future I hope he pans out. JV was not the answer either for the idiot running around a jazz forum pimping him. I think knight was the best pg prospect for the next few years. He filled a need and I have a feeling we will be regretting the decision down the line. Not because kanter will blow, just that we will be looking for a pg for the next 5 years.

Knight was such a good prospect he was passed over by 4 other teams after the Jazz for more euro unknowns. The GMs did their homework on Knight, he is not some can't miss prospect.
 
Appears to be everyone is impressed with Memo's recovery, conditioning, and shooting. Looks like Kanter may barely see the floor this year if one of the big men isn't traded.
 
It is second best league in Europe, and teams like Rytas, Alba, Aswel, Benneton, Aris, Paok, Krka and Cibona used to play in Euroleague and are really good teams. And if you judge player after 4 games... whats there to add?

You really don't know anything about european basketball , do you?

I can pick 12 random guys from this forum, i can be the coach, and compete in eurocup
 
Appears to be everyone is impressed with Memo's recovery, conditioning, and shooting. Looks like Kanter may barely see the floor this year if one of the big men isn't traded.

I think Memo was doing pretty well most of games he played in turkey, i believe many people will be surprised about his performance
 
you should forget about JV and cheer for Donatas Motiejunas instead,:o


I agree, Donatas has more potential and he may surprise many people in nba. I don't know why he was drafted so late.

Also i mentioned in a previous post but, Eurocup and Eurochallange, really sucks. The difference between euroleague and these platforms is bigger than NBA - D league
 
Knight is a well-rounded player, but I'm not sure what his skill set is that enables him to take over a game. He's a nice pick, but I'm not sure he's a Top-3 pick in last year's draft.
 
You really don't know anything about european basketball , do you?

I can pick 12 random guys from this forum, i can be the coach, and compete in eurocup

Sorry but this is moronic statement - you training 12 guys from this forum would lose to any Eurocup tam by 120 pts. Rytas just played CSKA ( arguably best team in Europe now) in VTB league in Moscow and lost only in 4th quarter by 13pts. Those Eurocup teams played in Euroleague at some point and only due to politics are out of it. Rytas was in top 16 in Euroleague last year, so why they were removed from it? Simple thing is ULEB wants to have more teams from rich basketball countries like Spain, Greece, Italy and Turkey to get more money from endorsements and thats why you have some weak teams in Euroleague and strong teams in Eurocup. It is more politics then sports sometimes.
 
I agree, Donatas has more potential and he may surprise many people in nba. I don't know why he was drafted so late.

Motiejunas could not even make Lithuanian national team this year. He is very talented but his work ethic is poor and he is like poor man's Bargnani - soft 7 footer who plays on perimeter. If he will start banging inside more and develop some post game then he could be something... And remember he is already 21 year old, thats why he was drafted later then 19 year olds.
 
The thing I am not totally understanding is the talk of him being huge and strong. Every picture I see of him he actually fairly average. Are pictures distorting his gargantuanity or is his size being fluffed? This:https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/imag...es-kanter-500x335_crop_340x234.jpg?1301003159 does not equal this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zCo2iJboXss/Tbcc-TV15dI/AAAAAAAADW8/ZrtIYMoypaM/s1600/Dwight+Howard.jpg in my mind but many jazzfanz make him seem like he is going to bully other centers.

Clue me in!


I am not gonna lie. Like I stated earlier in my post, he is not bigger than most big men. He is also not a legit 6 foot 11. He hasn't got wide shoulders. But besides his shoulders he has a thick body. It is just his body type, and it is not sandglass type body like Howard's and many other athlethic-explosive guy's. And his thick neck and big head doesn't help to the eye either. Additionally sometimes he puts on a posture like my grandma's. But these facts don't change some other facts. He is massive. He is strong. He is not strong strong. He is very very strong. He is powerful. Especially when he is well grounded. He has quick upper body and quickness in his general movement. His mass can produce force quite effectively. Power occurs with force and velocity. He has plenty of both of them. This somewhat explains his strenght that comes through his waist and his back. It is quite enjoying to watch him backing down bigger guys in post.

Like Jazz4ever stated he still has several years for sizing up his body. And I believe his natural growth still goes on. Even its fading out he can end up as a very legit 6 foot 11. Furthermore is possible too.

By the way I don't like talking this much about men's bodies... Just saying...
 
Ohhhh I get it. GM's never make mistakes. Gotcha.

Actually, it depends on what you call a mistake. The lottery is just that, a gamble. There is no guarantee. No matter how much you might like Player A there is no way you can unequivocally state that he will 100% be better than Player B. If you are that convinced he is a no-miss prospect, would you stake your livelihood on it? I mean that semi-seriously, will you bet your job, as in quit your job if you are wrong, that Knight will be the best player in the draft, or at least better than every player taken before him from 3 on? Well that is the gamble that most GMs make every time they make a draft pick or a trade or anything else like that. They are staking their jobs on it. I am reasonably certain they have more and better information than you or I or anyone else on Jazz Fanz how the top prospects stack up. Do they make mistakes? Sure as hell right they do. But believe it or not, they are few and far between, because really a failed draft pick is not a mistake, it is probability getting the best of them. The only real mistakes were consensus better players a GM passed up on that every other GM was drolling over and made everyone say "what the ****?" when you picked your guy ahead of them. Sam Bowie anyone? But if there is any debate about whether it was a mistake or not, or if plenty of other GMs passed on that player too, well that is just the luck of the draw. It is monumentally easy to monday-morning quarterback when we can see how the future actually turned out a few years down the road, it is equally monumentally difficult to guess the future that you simply cannot see, and when your reputation, job, and livelihood are on the line.
 
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