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How good or bad is Enes Kanter. Really.

Valaciunas didn't get as much playing time, but I clearly remember him packing the **** out of Marc Gasol.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tX8mJ_el6c

And got that against the best team in 16 minutes.
 
Other than that my memory is terrible and I honestly don't remember much other than Kanter looked good cleaning things up and was the spazziest pick setter I have seen in a while.
 
I've stayed out of the Kanter concersation for the last 6 months or so. It became clear that most on this board would prefer to speculate blindly than get information from someone who's spent a lot of time around Kanter. I won't re-hash it all (the good and the bad) because I don't want to defend the difference between sharing empirical knowledge and homerism (even though I was fair in my assessments of all UK players).

Having said that, to say that Kanter will be a bust or a star is purely speculative and should carry little passion/confidence of that guess, either way.
 
I think if Kanter was allowed to play at Kentucky last year, he would have been one of the top two picks of the draft. (Personally, I think Derrick Williams could/should have gone #1.)

He's been playing pro-ball in Europe since he was a teenager. I'm not worried about his IQ.

I think people are going to have a tough time keeping him off the glass and away from the paint. He's just big and strong, and he has a high motor. And he's clearly got some work ethic or he wouldn't be in the shape he's in. He can play in both the high post and low post, as well as hit a baseline jumper. He plays like a two-way big, something the Jazz haven't had in....well, maybe ever.

My expectations are pretty high. The Jazz's expectations must be pretty high too, or they wouldn't have taken him over Valanciunas, Vesely, Tristan Thompson and Brandon Knight. I think his floor is Rony Seikaly.

Also, Valanciunas isn't big enough to play center in a half-court oriented team, at least not right now. He's a good prospect though. Could also be a top-5 center in the league if he bulks up and polishes his shooting touch. The fact he's going to Toronto is going to keep him from being relevant for a while.
 
Catchall said:
I think if Kanter was allowed to play at Kentucky last year, he would have been one of the top two picks of the draft. (Personally, I think Derrick Williams could/should have gone #1.)

He's been playing pro-ball in Europe since he was a teenager. I'm not worried about his IQ.

I think people are going to have a tough time keeping him off the glass and away from the paint. He's just big and strong, and he has a high motor. And he's clearly got some work ethic or he wouldn't be in the shape he's in. He can play in both the high post and low post, as well as hit a baseline jumper. He plays like a two-way big, something the Jazz haven't had in....well, maybe ever.

My expectations are pretty high. The Jazz's expectations must be pretty high too, or they wouldn't have taken him over Valanciunas, Vesely, Tristan Thompson and Brandon Knight. I think his floor is Rony Seikaly.

Also, Valanciunas isn't big enough to play center in a half-court oriented team, at least not right now. He's a good prospect though. Could also be a top-5 center in the league if he bulks up and polishes his shooting touch. The fact he's going to Toronto is going to keep him from being relevant for a while.
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good post, rep'd
 
PKM said:
I've stayed out of the Kanter concersation for the last 6 months or so. It became clear that most on this board would prefer to speculate blindly than get information from someone who's spent a lot of time around Kanter. I won't re-hash it all (the good and the bad) because I don't want to defend the difference between sharing empirical knowledge and homerism (even though I was fair in my assessments of all UK players).

Having said that, to say that Kanter will be a bust or a star is purely speculative and should carry little passion/confidence of that guess, either way.
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If you are playing the odds, he will most likely be something in between.
 
LogGrad98 said:
If you are playing the odds, he will most likely be something in between.
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Can't disagree with that ..

Also, definitions get blurry. I've always said that Kanter will be a star rebounder, never a shot-blocker, an above-average scorer. I project him to be more star than bust, but those same stats, for someone else, may be on the bust side.
 
If by year 3 he's averaging 16 & 9, I'd say we made the right pick.

I've always been a homer, so I think, given minutes, he could easily get there.
 
I think Kanter has a very bright future....as a PF. In fact everything points to the fact he should play PF: good foot speed, decent range on jumper, good stamina. He would have no problem guarding any PF in this league, and has the post up game to dominate them on the offensive end.
 
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