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How good or bad is Enes Kanter. Really.

I think his one big strength is that he should be able to rebound right away. I think his scoring will come later. I was all for drafting Kanter at the #3, but he could be a huge bust.
 
I don't see how there can be any idea. Even the lack of serious competition doesn't necessarily mean anything. Guys like Garnett or Stoudemire came right out of high school ready to play with the big boys. But they're obviously rare exceptions. So realistically, I'm not expecting much of anything. I just want to see what his game looks like against pros so I can get a feel for what type of player he could become down the road.
 
Dont see him playing much to begin with. However, if by the trade deadline we stink I can see us trading at least one of our vet big men which should open up additional playing time for him. As people have said dont forget how young he is and how little he has played in the last couple of years. Patience will be key.
 
I'm eager to see what he's got - but the way I look at it, there is no bar for him. I have no expectations from him whatsoever this year given his recent history and the bigs we currently have. Any impact he makes is a bonus for us this year. After seeing him a good amount of times on the court, and he's development this season, then I'll have a better idea what his ceiling is.
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Anything Utah gets from Kanter this season is a bonus. He's a project. I also agree with sojodave. Enes can bring rebounding and energy right away. Kind of like Millsap his rookie season. Just go after it and get put backs if possible. With the uncertain labor situation, I was leaning more towards Valanciunas as the Jazz pick. I think he has more potential as a true 5 and remaining in Europe one more year would not have been a huge deal, especially with the Jazz likely playing for a lottery pick, not a playoff spot this year.
 
My take on the comparison with Kosta, is that Kosta has made a lot of improvement since he came to the Jazz, and Kanter is already better than Kosta is now -- did you see them go head-to-head in the Eurobasket tournament? --

You must be completely blind. Kosta destroyed Kanter when Turkey played Greece in friendly ( I think it was 9-0 in limited minutes they played ). Kosta at this point is much better then Kanter, plus he is bigger and more athletic.
 
Whenever I feel doubtful on Kanter I am always consoled by recalling a post I saw on an internet message board several months before the NBA Draft:


"Coach Cal don't recruit no busts"
 
Look at kanter's body type. He's actually kind of toned and muscular. And he is very young. I think he could grow into a bigger body type. He could pack on some more muscle. And I think he will. I think you can tell a lot of times by looking at a man's neck, head, and shoulders. And in particular his jaws. He has the beginning features of an alpha male. He has square and proportionate features. He's not real long but doesn't have real short arms. Like Hoffa did. He looked like a t Rex. Also Hoffa didnt look proportional. His body looked weird. Kosta also looked wierd. He had a hunch back and didn't look like an alpha male. Now it doesn't always mean that these features will make you a beast but it will help. Just look at kris humphries looks like alpha male. But doesn't play like one. The thing that worries me is that Kanter doesn't play above the rim. He doesn't look real explosive. But doesn't look slow and he can dunk somewhat. He might end up sneaky athletic like Dwill or Hayward. I think he will be good
 
In general I think Jazz messed up by not taking Valanciunas. Kanter may turn out into reliable big man, getting something like 12pts/8 reb in his NBA career but in general nothing special. I think his potential in NBA is fairly limited due to lack of explosiveness and lift - unless he develops decent outside game and passing. But who knows, with so little game to judge about him he is a mystery, could be a bust or could surprise some people ( me including)
 
I'm not blind. I saw a couple of plays when they were isolated where Kosta got blocked by Kanter and another where Kanter completely took Kosta out of the play. Kosta made a few put backs, as well, but not when Kanter was guarding him.
 
Look at kanter's body type. He's actually kind of toned and muscular. And he is very young. I think he could grow into a bigger body type. He could pack on some more muscle. And I think he will. I think you can tell a lot of times by looking at a man's neck, head, and shoulders. And in particular his jaws. He has the beginning features of an alpha male. He has square and proportionate features. He's not real long but doesn't have real short arms. Like Hoffa did. He looked like a t Rex. Also Hoffa didnt look proportional. His body looked weird. Kosta also looked wierd. He had a hunch back and didn't look like an alpha male. Now it doesn't always mean that these features will make you a beast but it will help. Just look at kris humphries looks like alpha male.

Let me guess - your favorite song is "It's Raining Men"
 
look at kanter's body type. He's actually kind of toned and muscular. And he is very young. I think he could grow into a bigger body type. He could pack on some more muscle. And i think he will. I think you can tell a lot of times by looking at a man's neck, head, and shoulders. And in particular his jaws. He has the beginning features of an alpha male. He has square and proportionate features. He's not real long but doesn't have real short arms. Like hoffa did. He looked like a t rex. Also hoffa didnt look proportional. His body looked weird. Kosta also looked wierd. He had a hunch back and didn't look like an alpha male. Now it doesn't always mean that these features will make you a beast but it will help. Just look at kris humphries looks like alpha male. But doesn't play like one. The thing that worries me is that kanter doesn't play above the rim. He doesn't look real explosive. But doesn't look slow and he can dunk somewhat. He might end up sneaky athletic like dwill or hayward. I think he will be good

what the f*** !?!
 
IMO it's not really fair to Kanter to scrutinize his rookie year. He is probably going to have fouling issues and will look really bad at times. I'm expecting to defend him at some point.

What I'll be looking for is boxing out, hustling on D (even if that means aggressive fouls) and running the floor hard every time. IMO those things would maximize what he appears to do well.
 
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