How interesting is this: Locke's thought from NY

[The Midnight]

Smoke Screen??? Holy Cow! I was starting to be set on knight but this changes things! Jimmer at 12 now becomes more of a reality!! ... For better or for worse- You decide!

My heart says Jimmer, my head says Knight.

I'd take Kanter & Jimmer though. Jimmer just seems to be a very good fit for Utah. He'll work his butt off to get better and be a successful PG in this league. His shooting will make it easier IMO.

And also I just think there is no way Jimmer will ever leave for another team if we do pick him.

 

[Justys]

I still like my trade idea. Draft Kanter, hope Jimmers there at 12 then package him and Millsap for Granger and the 15th pick. Utah has an amazing starting 5 Harris, Hayward, Granger, Favors, Jefferson with a decent bench Miles, Singleton, Kanter. Really pretty deep except for PG, which maybe Utah could buy a pick from the Bulls and go after Nolon Smith or Reggie Jackson.

 

[The Midnight]

I still like my trade idea. Draft Kanter, hope Jimmers there at 12 then package him and Millsap for Granger and the 15th pick. Utah has an amazing starting 5 Harris, Hayward, Granger, Favors, Jefferson with a decent bench Miles, Singleton, Kanter. Really pretty deep except for PG, which maybe Utah could buy a pick from the Bulls and go after Nolon Smith or Reggie Jackson.

Yeah not a bad trade actually.

Wonder if Pacers will go for it though.. seems like you're just swapping Millsap and Granger which isn't much..

 

[margodydek]

Dude, what do you expect him to say? Are we all just suppose to believe Jimmer put 0 effort into defense his last year in college? The guy just flat out sucks at defense. He will improve, but he will always be a liability on defense. PG is by far the hardest position to guard in the NBA. PG's who are considered good college defenders come into the NBA and struggle to stay in front of their man.

It's illegal for PG's to play any defense, so I don't see why you wouldn't get a PG that's really good on the offensive end. There's one PG in the entire league who makes a difference on defense - Rondo.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Didn't Locke also feel we were going to take Xavier Henry?

How'd that work out?

I also believe there was some talk about taking Babbit.

How'd that work out?

I don't think I ever heard them talk about the Jazz drafting Hayward.

Who does Hayward play for right now?

And how does he "feel" this? I don't get it. The Jazz are located on the other side of the country. Just because a few Turks visiting the nation's dump and yelled @ Locke doesn't mean that we're taking Kanter.

 

[margodydek]

Didn't Locke also feel we were going to take Xavier Henry?

How'd that work out?

I also believe there was some talk about taking Babbit.

How'd that work out?

I don't think I ever heard them talk about the Jazz drafting Hayward.

Who does Hayward play for right now?

And how does he "feel" this? I don't get it. The Jazz are located on the other side of the country. Just because a few Turks visiting the nation's dump and yelled @ Locke doesn't mean that we're taking Kanter.

The feeling he's getting is what other teams are starting to say, and I can guarantee you it's their own opinions, not what they're hearing out of the Jazz brass, because the Jazz brass aren't saying anything.

 

[Kenwood]

I assume it's also based on the warm fuzzy things Kanter is saying and Knight's noncommittal attitude (as I read today's quotes).

I still haven't decided who I WANTout of the two. I don't think I can know, to be honest. There's just not enough of a body of work with Kanter for me to say. Hopefully workouts, interviews and background checks make KOC more qualified to make that call than I feel.

That said, I decided this morning that I think the Jazz will take Knight. Good upside, better known skills and weaknesses, and I figured they were gaga over his 4.3 HS GPA and the "he should be interviewing us" comments. If Locke's right, I guess I misread the Jazz. Won't be the first time.

 

[NCJazz]

I assume it's also based on the warm fuzzy things Kanter is saying and Knight's noncommittal attitude (as I read today's quotes).

I still haven't decided who I WANTout of the two. I don't think I can know, to be honest. There's just not enough of a body of work with Kanter for me to say. Hopefully workouts, interviews and background checks make KOC more qualified to make that call than I feel.

That said, I decided this morning that I think the Jazz will take Knight. Good upside, better known skills and weaknesses, and I figured they were gaga over his 4.3 HS GPA and the "he should be interviewing us" comments. If Locke's right, I guess I misread the Jazz. Won't be the first time.

Cant remember which Jazz FO type said it, but we apparently acquired a lot more game footage of him than people think is available. He did play professionally and also has played with his national team every year for the last few.

 

[asian_roger]

I can still see Minny take Kanter first, and cleveland would hope that we pick up knight because they want Williams. How come I haven't heard any reports on williams? D:

 

[NAOS]

What better guy to throw chum for the sharks than Mr. Yesman? This could be seen from a mile away.

 

[MattMan]

PG is by far the hardest position to guard in the NBA. PG's who are considered good college defenders come into the NBA and struggle to stay in front of their man.

Screw "good college defenders" 80% of the PG's in the league can't stay in front of their opposite, especially with the contrasting styles. DWill just does crossover after crossover until they're unbalanced and gets by his guy....and uses size and muscle when necessary. DRose is just a freak and no PG in the league can guard him....even Rondo couldn't, and I consider him one of the best PG defenders.

If any position is able to lack on defense, it's PG. You funnel the star PG's to your bigs and hope you can contain.

People who want Singleton over Jimmer because he can play better defense are stealing from Peter to pay Paul. Either way you have to develop the kid. You're counting on a guy to work on his shooting, and Singleton is horrid when compared to other lotto picks. I'm not saying we should take Jimmer over a defensive guy, but for craps sake, don't act like it's a massive gap between the two.

 

[Harcher]

Screw "good college defenders" 80% of the PG's in the league can't stay in front of their opposite, especially with the contrasting styles. DWill just does crossover after crossover until they're unbalanced and gets by his guy....and uses size and muscle when necessary. DRose is just a freak and no PG in the league can guard him....even Rondo couldn't, and I consider him one of the best PG defenders.

If any position is able to lack on defense, it's PG. You funnel the star PG's to your bigs and hope you can contain.

People who want Singleton over Jimmer because he can play better defense are stealing from Peter to pay Paul. Either way you have to develop the kid. You're counting on a guy to work on his shooting, and Singleton is horrid when compared to other lotto picks. I'm not saying we should take Jimmer over a defensive guy, but for craps sake, don't act like it's a massive gap between the two.

Consider JJ Barea and his impact on the Lakers and the Heat. Maybe its time to concentrate some effort (draft expenditures, acquisitions) who can guard the 1...