How Much Could Tyler Herro Match Donovan in Utah?

[Elizah Huge]

Both you guys can piss off. I didn't fudge anything.

Sorry you lost your lame argument of Donovan vs Herro because I pointed out Jordan Clarkson and Herro had almost identical years.

But one is 22...................

You literally fudged Herro’s numbers.

 

[MTS]

Here's a better comparison: Per 100 possessions (with accurate numbers):

2021-22 Herro: 31.8 pts on 56.1 TS%, 6.1 asts, 7.7 rebs, 4.0 tovs
2020-21 Clarkson: 33.5 pts on 54.9 TS%, 4.5 asts, 7.3 rebs, 3.1 tovs

 

[Elizah Huge]

I love how you guys "move the goalposts".

You wanted to compare Donovan Mitchell to Tyler Herro using per 36 and a bunch of other metrics you want to use.

I pointed out Clarkson, in his 6th man role just a year prior to Herro, but it's not comparable.

You guys are a waste of time.

We are comparing them at age 22. Come back and compare Clarkson and Herro at age 22 and we will talk. I am starting to think you just might not be the brightest when it comes to basketball knowledge but that’s ok.

 

[LoPo]

You literally fudged Herro’s numbers.

I literally looked at DRPG instead of RPG.

Half a rebound.

But hey, post another colorful chart comparing Donovan Mitchell to Tyler Herro. The dumbest comparison we've had on here for a long time.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I literally looked at DRPG instead of RPG.

Half a rebound.

But hey, post another colorful chart comparing Donovan Mitchell to Tyler Herro. The dumbest comparison we've had on here for a long time.

You fudged his assists numbers too buddy. What were you looking at when you saw that?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think he put the DRB for Herro instead of the total rebounds.

But he got it close enough for his point to stand. I also think a Herro + future picks package for Mitchell is a terrible return. You can hope for Herro to turn into Mitchell 2.0, and you can hope for the Heat, a well-run organization, to have a downward spiral so that their future picks are good. Both are extremely unlikely.

If we're trading away Mitchell, I'd rather fleece the Knicks. You know those picks will be fantastic.

JC's numbers compare well to a number of guys... his style of play is so different it isn't really a great comp here... JC and Don have struggled together because it becomes my turn your turn... It has some value but limits him to being a good bench player.

Herro is making a natural progression and is a guy that can function more in a starting lineup. Herro won't get to Donovan's level... he's more CJ McCollum. He's also likely better than most of the guys we'd get in those Knicks picks... I also just don't think that package is there. I would prefer it as well, but I just think we are pre-maturely dismissing the Heat package as awful and it might turn out well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I literally looked at DRPG instead of RPG.

Half a rebound.

But hey, post another colorful chart comparing Donovan Mitchell to Tyler Herro. The dumbest comparison we've had on here for a long time.

Its not a comp saying Herro is better than Donovan... its saying how much worse is he... and posing the question of "hey, is that difference worth getting 3 firsts, 3 swaps, another prospect, and moving past the staying together for the kids season we are about to face?"

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Here's a better comparison: Per 100 possessions (with accurate numbers):

2021-22 Herro: 31.8 pts on 56.1 TS%, 6.1 asts, 7.7 rebs, 4.0 tovs
2020-21 Clarkson: 33.5 pts on 54.9 TS%, 4.5 asts, 7.3 rebs, 3.1 tovs

And again... Herro is 21 and we are cherry picking JC's best year. Herro also came off the bench but played starter minutes... JC did not.

Herro's game fits much better with others as well... so how they go about their business is different. I think a better comp is CJ... if we got CJ and 3 picks, plus swaps for Donovan... that's an okay deal.

 

[MTS]

JC's numbers compare well to a number of guys... his style of play is so different it isn't really a great comp here... JC and Don have struggled together because it becomes my turn your turn... It has some value but limits him to being a good bench player.

Herro is making a natural progression and is a guy that can function more in a starting lineup. Herro won't get to Donovan's level... he's more CJ McCollum. He's also likely better than most of the guys we'd get in those Knicks picks... I also just don't think that package is there. I would prefer it as well, but I just think we are pre-maturely dismissing the Heat package as awful and it might turn out well.

I see what you're saying. I just view the haul of Knicks picks as our best shot at ultimately landing a superstar. Even if it's still unlikely, when viewed in terms of what gives the Jazz the best chance at becoming a title contender, I think it's the Knicks package.

The Heat package feels more low risk low reward.

 

[KqWIN]

Herro is better than Clarkson, but he’s not close to Mitchell. Mitchell is one of the best offensive players in the game. He had a really good situation last year, but it’s not like we were super stacked and he was still able to lead the league’s best offense. He’s carried elite offenses in the playoffs too. He did this while having a down year as a shooter too.

People are going to realize how good both Mitchell and Gobert were once they’re gone.

 

[Elizah Huge]

The Heat package becomes even more interesting the more you think about it.

Danny says sure we’ll take Robinson’s salary but you’re swapping us Lowry for Conley.

We send Lowry to Dallas for matching salary and picks.

We end up sending out Donovan/Conley for Herro/Robinson/Jovic/salary from Dallas plus all of these picks:

23/27/29 Heat unprotected 1sts
24/26/28 Heat pick swap 1sts
25/27 Mavericks unprotected 1sts

Maybe Mavericks give us 27/29 instead if we take Bertans salary?

So many different scenarios… If we trade Donovan/Conley and end up with Herro/Jovic plus 5 unprotected 1sts and 3 pick swap 1sts for and just take on Robinson/Bertans salary I’d say that’s a pretty good deal.

 

[hgb]

Herro also has 5 inches on Donovan.

I strongly doubt that. Herro is 6'5" in shoes, 6'4" without. Donovan is 6'1" without shoes, isn't he?

(Who on earth decided that listing people in height with shows was a good idea?)