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I am starting to hate trey Burke.

it was known long ago that burke sucks

the problem is, now everybody knows this and his value is not that high
 
My hope after last season was that he could still turn into Mike Conley. That's off the table now. He's lacking in athleticism and isn't as good a shooter as we thought after he was drafted. I can't think of any successful starting PG's that lacked those two things. Also, I'm pretty confident we have the worst starting PG in the league right now. That pretty much says it all.
 
homeytennis said:
Here's one of the guys we traded for him. Wish we could hit the undo button?
https://probasketballtalk.nbcsports...-muhammads-career/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
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Shabazz had a lot of BS surrounding him that hit his stock pretty hard. I think people got the impression he was a person with a lot of baggage... I don't know the whole story but his dad was to blame for 99% of the garbage from what I've seen. I'm glad he's panning out (although it'd be nice if it was for us). I don't think there were ever doubts about his talent.
 
Oh and Trey really, really sucks... Not sure what to do about it though. Exum's not ready... not sure we could get anything good from trading Trey. If you could get a late first rounder for him would you do it? Sadly, I might.
 
Unfortunately, Jazz drafted who they thought was BPA, as in Best Point Available. They were desperate to get a point guard and had to take one. To Lindsey's defense, Trey was projected by many "experts" to go higher than he did. Drafting is such an inexact science. Sometimes you draft players who were productive in college, have the right size for their positions and they turn out to be busts. Sometimes you go for production and competitiveness over size. Sometimes teams overlook players who later develop into studs even though they were very raw at draft time or did not have the ideal size or came from small schools.

I'm not too down on DL for missing on Trey. MCW hasn't been any better. Burke, I think, was a "system" pick. He fit the traditional PG model the Jazz have used (other than shooting too much). Under Quin, I don't think Utah needs another pure PG. Hayward and Burks often initiate the offense (one reason I think Alec was locked up a bit high). If/when the Jazz upgrade, I wouldn't be surprised if the new player is more of a combo guard than another true PG.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Unfortunately, Jazz drafted who they thought was BPA, as in Best Point Available. They were desperate to get a point guard and had to take one. To Lindsey's defense, Trey was projected by many "experts" to go higher than he did. Drafting is such an inexact science. Sometimes you draft players who were productive in college, have the right size for their positions and they turn out to be busts. Sometimes you go for production and competitiveness over size. Sometimes teams overlook players who later develop into studs even though they were very raw at draft time or did not have the ideal size or came from small schools.

I'm not too down on DL for missing on Trey. MCW hasn't been any better. Burke, I think, was a "system" pick. He fit the traditional PG model the Jazz have used (other than shooting too much). Under Quin, I don't think Utah needs another pure PG. Hayward and Burks often initiate the offense (one reason I think Alec was locked up a bit high). If/when the Jazz upgrade, I wouldn't be surprised if the new player is more of a combo guard than another true PG.
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If that's the case, the guy is on the roster in Ian although he appears be glued to the bench right now.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
My hope after last season was that he could still turn into Mike Conley. That's off the table now. He's lacking in athleticism and isn't as good a shooter as we thought after he was drafted. I can't think of any successful starting PG's that lacked those two things. Also, I'm pretty confident we have the worst starting PG in the league right now. That pretty much says it all.
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Ronnie Price is currently the starting PG for the Lakers, so while way down in the list, Burke isn't quite the worst starting PG.
 
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