I believe in Liberty

[♪alt13]

When you say things like this, it's very hard to take you seriously.

People really can't use food stamps to buy prepared food. They can't even shop at the deli at most grocery stores. They can't use microwaves in the 7-11(considered prepared).

 

[DutchJazzer]

No nationalism? You want a 1 world government? Good luck with that. IF you want freedom of that nature take it up with the other 200+ countries.

how about no government

 

[Gameface]

People really can't use food stamps to buy prepared food. They can't even shop at the deli at most grocery stores. They can't use microwaves in the 7-11(considered prepared).

You can buy frozen dinners, spices, potato chips, whatever as long as it's a food item with food stamps. You can't buy food from a restaurant.

I'm not following what you're saying.

 

[♪alt13]

how about no government

That's my favorite pipe dream. Anarchy doesn't equal chaos. Anarchy = people working in free association towards common goals.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Passport - Stupid idea. I want to know who is coming and going into my homeland.

THAT is a border

tell me again do you see a difference between left and right?


borders are man made stupidty
imaginary lines that need to go.

 

[♪alt13]

You can buy frozen dinners, spices, potato chips, whatever as long as it's a food item with food stamps. You can't buy food from a restaurant.

I'm not following what you're saying.

Right, you can't buy it from a restaurant because it is prepared.

 

[DutchJazzer]

you know what needs to go,
kings and queens.
they are a collosal waste of money.
england netherlands have king and queens. and strict gun control.
if there should be a king and or queen. let the people have guns.
to protect themself against this barbaric notion fo king and queens

 

[Gameface]

That's my favorite pipe dream. Anarchy doesn't equal chaos. Anarchy = people working in free association towards common goals.

Anarchy exists to some extent within any black market economy. It results in people protecting their interests with violence. I believe we need a government that can enforce contracts, protect basic liberties and provide national defense so that an aggressive foreign power can't come in and take it all away.

 

[♪alt13]

you know what needs to go,
kings and queens.
they are a collosal waste of money.
england netherlands have king and queens. and strict gun control.
if there should be a king and or queen. let the people have guns.
to protect themself against this barbaric notion fo king and queens

yeah, that should put queen Elizabeth on food stamps.

 

[♪alt13]

Anarchy exists to some extent within any black market economy. It results in people protecting their interests with violence. I believe we need a government that can enforce contracts, protect basic liberties and provide national defense so that an aggressive foreign power can't come in and take it all away.

I agree with that. I admitted full Anarchy was a pipe dream.

 

[DutchJazzer]

That's my favorite pipe dream. Anarchy doesn't equal chaos. Anarchy = people working in free association towards common goals.

yes.
ANARCHY!!!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Anarchy exists to some extent within any black market economy. It results in people protecting their interests with violence. I believe we need a government that can enforce contracts, protect basic liberties and provide national defense so that an aggressive foreign power can't come in and take it all away.

that is not anarchy my friend.
that is whatr the media and government call anarchy.
so anarchy gets a bad name

 

[♪alt13]

yes.
ANARCHY!!!

I think quite a bit about how an Anarchic system would work. What are your thoughts, Dutch?

 

[♪alt13]

Have you ever read Proudhon?

 

[DutchJazzer]

I think quite a bit about how an Anarchic system would work. What are your thoughts, Dutch?

basically k-paxian anarchy

 

[♪alt13]

This?

 

[DutchJazzer]

This?

jep ever read the trilogy?
it is funny how prot tells the psychiatrist about k-pax. and the psychiatrist cant imagine it existing. yet to me it seems perfectly logical

 

[♪alt13]

I'll have to check it out. You should search for "what is property?" You can download it from google for free. I don't agree with all of his positions but the thinking behind them is beautiful, none the less.

 

[One Brow]

Yes I am. Second hand smoke is avoidable. No one is going to strap you into your high chair and blow smoke in your face.

That level of exposure is not required for second-hand smoke, and your position seems to boil down to making it my responsibility to avoid any sort of poisons my neighbor emits. That's not realistic.

 

[One Brow]

Just a little fyi, ordinary citizens can buy rocket launchers, cannons, etc. Hasn't seemed to be too big of an issue. Can't remember hearing of a crime where someone used any of those things to gain an advantage.

Buy is different from carry, though. When was the last time you saw one being carried?