I can’t afford this Trump economy

[PJF]

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[Rubashov]

I appreciate that you don't have time or interest in going back through all my posts on the issue.

My position early in the Israel Hamas war, before Israel had struck back, was that Israel was going to overreact and in the process lose support in a situation where they were clearly the victim.

I frequently point out that Hamas and a few other Muslim extremist groups intentionally attack civilian targets, intentionally hide behind their own civilians, and cry the hardest when their civilians are killed. It is a core part of their strategy. It is up to a power like Israel to at least attempt to thread that needle because as we see, Israel is much more powerful than Hamas militarily. When they just go ahead and blast their way through civilians they lose the moral high ground.

I think the situation with Israel is interesting because I think there are many people who are strong supporters of Israel because they see Israel as the place where Jews belong. It's like a self-created Jewish reservation. Plus most of the same people like the fact that Israel is right there in the Middle East annoying and antagonizing a bunch of Muslims, which they tend to like less than, well, pretty much anyone else.

So that's where I'm at on that stuff. I'm not against Israel defending their self, but I think they have been indiscriminate and unconcerned with both directly killing civilians and the humanitarian crisis they have caused by blocking access to food relief. I'm not ready to call it a genocide, but I am ready to say its not good.

About 15 years ago I was backpacking across South America and every so often we would come into contact with young Israelis'. Now when we arrived we noticed heaps of stand alone accommodation for Israelis' or floors of hostels that were Israeli only. Finding this to be a bit odd I asked about it, and was told, "Oh its what they do after they leave the Army, a lot of Israelis' either do to south America or Asia and have like a gap year." I was like, "oh, ok but why the separate accommodation?", the reply was "It just works better that way."

During that holiday, I had probably about 10 interactions with people I assumed were Israeli, all ranged from negative to repellant. And honestly with no reason, I put it down to a couple of things, one being the experience and indoctrination that comes from being in the army and other, that they probably thought i was a Muslim. I had a shaved head and a long bread at the time. But the takeaway for me was that i had never met a group of people more universally vile.

 

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About 15 years ago I was backpacking across South America and every so often we would come into contact with young Israelis'. Now when we arrived we noticed heaps of stand alone accommodation for Israelis' or floors of hostels that were Israeli only. Finding this to be a bit odd I asked about it, and was told, "Oh its what they do after they leave the Army, a lot of Israelis' either do to south America or Asia and have like a gap year." I was like, "oh, ok but why the separate accommodation?", the reply was "It just works better that way."

During that holiday, I had probably about 10 interactions with people I assumed were Israeli, all ranged from negative to repellant. And honestly with no reason, I put it down to a couple of things, one being the experience and indoctrination that comes from being in the army and other, that they probably thought i was a Muslim. I had a shaved head and a long bread at the time. But the takeaway for me was that i had never met a group of people more universally vile.

Persecution does weird things to people.

I understand what their aim is but honestly Israel are not much better than the Nazis for what they are doing to the women and children of Gaza.

 

[Rubashov]

Persecution does weird things to people.

I understand what their aim is but honestly Israel are not much better than the Nazis for what they are doing to the women and children of Gaza.

Well they've just taken their playbook and added a few of their own.

 

[Sardines]

Persecution does weird things to people.

I understand what their aim is but honestly Israel are not much better than the Nazis for what they are doing to the women and children of Gaza.

Jewish people who grew up in Israel have been persecuted?

 

[PJF]

Liberal policies suck! Let's tax everyone to death and let our government overlords take care of us. What a crappy way to live.


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[Deleted member 365]

How are home prices? Cheap now?

What about groceries?

Has Donald revealed his health care reform or is it still two weeks ago?

How about the price of eggs?

Trump and the GOP claim to be the party of the working class slob but look at how they go after someone trying to make things more affordable for the working class slob



****ing newborns. Entitled bitches. They think being pro life means we actually care about helping them? Bastards.

 

[Rubashov]

How are home prices? Cheap now?

What about groceries?

Has Donald revealed his health care reform or is it still two weeks ago?

How about the price of eggs?

Trump and the GOP claim to be the party of the working class slob but look at how they go after someone trying to make things more affordable for the working class slob

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****ing newborns. Entitled bitches. They think being pro life means we actually care about helping them? Bastards.

What is minimum wage in a city like New York, i would imagine its quite high. I would assume cost of living in NY is pretty high.

 

[Sardines]

What is minimum wage in a city like New York, i would imagine its quite high. I would assume cost of living in NY is pretty high.

$16.50.

Cost of living for an individual in NYC is $4130, for a family it's just shy of $9000

16.50 x 40 = 660
660 x 4 = 2640

Our minimum wage is NOT designed to allow a person working full time to actually live.

And the Republicans keep wanting to scare us with socialism. Make capitalism work and I'm ready to tell socialism to **** right off. In the meantime being able to afford to live is sounding pretty good to me, by whatever means.

 

[Deleted member 365]

What is minimum wage in a city like New York, i would imagine its quite high. I would assume cost of living in NY is pretty high.

I don’t want to hear from the butt ****ers whining about how raising the minimum wage will raise the cost of stuff while they also cheer on insanely high tariffs, trade embargoes, and tax cuts for billionaires. These aren’t serious thinkers. I say raise the **** out of min wage and see what happens. For my entire adult life I’ve seen Republican administration after Republican administration pay back their donors with massive tax cuts that haven’t done squat for average people. So I say we go “socialist” and give min wage folks hella good wages and see what happens. We can call it “trickle up” economics and give it a whirl. After all, we’ve tried 40 years now of nonsensical trickle down crap.

 

[Rubashov]

$16.50.

Cost of living for an individual in NYC is $4130, for a family it's just shy of $9000

16.50 x 40 = 660
660 x 4 = 2640

Our minimum wage is NOT designed to allow a person working full time to actually live.

And the Republicans keep wanting to scare us with socialism. Make capitalism work and I'm ready to tell socialism to **** right off. In the meantime being able to afford to live is sounding pretty good to me, by whatever means.

How many workers are actually paid that minimum wage? So minimum wage in my old job was something like 23 bucks, i was on 50+

 

[Rubashov]

I don’t want to hear from the butt ****ers whining about how raising the minimum wage will raise the cost of stuff while they also cheer on insanely high tariffs, trade embargoes, and tax cuts for billionaires. These aren’t serious thinkers. I say raise the **** out of min wage and see what happens. For my entire adult life I’ve seen Republican administration after Republican administration pay back their donors with massive tax cuts that haven’t done squat for average people. So I say we go “socialist” and give min wage folks hella good wages and see what happens. We can call it “trickle up” economics and give it a whirl. After all, we’ve tried 40 years now of nonsensical trickle down crap.

immigration control (White Australia) and tariffs are the reason that Australian wages are considerably higher than US wages, while i dont think that is the reason for the democratic socialist nature of our society (historically strong unions) its certainly had an influence.