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I can’t afford this Trump economy

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Interesting to see one of the resident Trump apologists all but coming right out, and identifying liberals and Democrats as “the enemy within”. I wonder how many problems will even be addressed on a level playing field, level in the sense that we’re all American citizens, we accept each other as fellow citizens, regardless of which side of any political, social, cultural divisiveness? For some strange reason, Trump apologists seem to think the only acceptable outcome is the defeat of America’s public enemy #1: Democrats, and better yet, let them fade away forever, no longer acceptable as “patriots” and “correct-thinking” Americans. Crush them, let it be a single party America! I do wonder at what point these apologists would be willing to holdback in their identification of Democrats and liberals as our nation’s greatest enemy: will they stop short of “re-education camps” like the Chinese have for the Uyghurs? I think we can bet our last buck there are American Trump supporters who would give a thumbs up for death camps. Oh, that won’t happen, I know that, but you can bet some Trump supporters would not stop short of even a “final solution”. Not here, but throughout this country such Americans exist.

Years ago, in response to a request by Joe Bagadonuts, I started a thread looking at psychological differences, even brain structural differences, between liberals and conservatives. I’ve known all along that some of our differences, problably most easily perceived in our culture wars, are due to differences that may have its roots in fundamental differences in how liberals and conservatives see the world at large. Truisms, like liberals are more comfortable with change, conservatives are more attune to threats. Fundamental differences in how one perceives and reacts to the greater world at large. And this must be fundamental in some respect, be endemic within our respective natures(allowances for nature vs. nurture debate), in some sense: we see this right/left split throughout the world, and clearly, we are living at a time where Right leaning mindsets are in the ascendant, and winning elections everywhere.

As far as eggs, bird flu. Bird flu. Better hope it doesn’t mutate in a way that leads to human to human transmission.
 
It's important to understand the President doesn't dictate the price of eggs. "The left" mostly understands this. MAGA seems to not understand this at all.

Eggs are predicted to go by 20% this year because of bird flu.
 
Sardines said:
They think it's a joke, just like they thought when MAGA tards thought it was a dunk.

MAGA is not good at picking up on social cues.
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The issue is both sides are so ridiculous with their spin it is hard to tell when people are being serious. I will hear someone say something and think its a joke... and then find out "nope... that is what they believe".
 
Sardines said:
The Great Depression was preceded by a decade of significant economic growth. Shortly before the Great Depression began a series of *** for tat tariffs between major economic powers were implemented. This ultimately drove the demand for now higher priced goods down sharply and, well, the rest is history.
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Any good reads on this?
 
Sardines said:
The Great Depression was preceded by a decade of significant economic growth. Shortly before the Great Depression began a series of *** for tat tariffs between major economic powers were implemented. This ultimately drove the demand for now higher priced goods down sharply and, well, the rest is history.
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The tariffs implemented before the Great Depression did not cause the Great Depression, but did not help. The tariffs that were implemented during the Great Depression made it worse. Keep in mind the U.S had a trade surplus back then, which changes the impact, and makes it much easier for countries to fight back with their own.

Tariffs will likely increase the dollars value, which is a double edge sword. It will be a partial counter to increased prices to somewhat attenuate the impact of increases in import pricing, but makes it harder for U.S. companies from exporting as U.S. goods will cost more.

Biden kept basically all the tariffs Trump put in and then added about 60% more.

Tariffs can increase the cost of goods but raise tax revenue by a lot. A corresponding decrease in income tax could offset some of the impact to the economy by encouraging U.S. manufacturing. All this based on the assumption other countries will also add tariffs like what happened after the Hawley-Smoot Tariff.

Tariffs make sense to fight countries like China that manipulate prices, and this is already being done, and also to protect U.S. manufacturing.

Even if Trump's idea for economic prosperity from tariffs were to be executed perfectly for our benefit, it will come at the detriment to many other countries, including many already in poverty. In turn, it will sour relationships with many allies and allow China/Russia to potentially build stronger ties with those countries.

Bottom line, tariffs have been around for a long time, and both parties make use of them. The debt clock shows the tax revenue from tariffs, and it is not trivial. I do think new tariffs on a global scale would be detrimental. Used as a tool against Canada and Mexico to secure borders will likely be effective, it won't help with diplomatic relations.
 
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