I don't see how Kanter can succeed as a Jazz

[BTP]

Hayward struggled 5-6 games in a row but he still got the same minutes!

Kanter struggled 2-3 games and he has been moved to bench directly!

This guy some call a coach has favorites. It was visible in the past...

Kanter is coming off shoulder surgery and a sprained ankle and doesn't seem like he is in as good as shape as last year. I hate to say this, but the Jazz look soooo much better with Marvin playing the stretch 4 than Kanter and Favors jamming the middle.

The problem is that Favors and Kanter are both 4's. Kanter is not 6'11", he is 6'9" and struggles against long 4's and really struggles against centers. The Jazz have been patient with Kanter, but how much rope are they going to give him?

At draft combine he got measured 6'9.75" w/o shoes and 6'11.25" in shoes. So size is not the matter with a 7'1.5" wingspan. Kanter's body and mobility says he's a 5 defensively. I wouldn't even scorch him for his individual defense, as the whole defensive concept by Corbin is trash.

but then you got to think ... who would we trade him for? and if we wanted a vetrin center then why not have just kept Big Al? .... I think he can be a star giv'n the right coach and system ... he looks alot like Dirk in dallas years ago ... only differnce is Dirk had a coach that belived in him and gave him a chance .... seriously he has little to no chance with Corbin and co ... neither does Alec Burkes

I think you're exaggerating but the quintessence is true I think. Last year I wondered often why the two young guys were receiving so little playing time. Especially in games when the veterans struggled and the young guns clearly were playing well and taking advantage of their opporunity.
With this guy on the sideline Kanter won't develop properly. Something irrepairable happened apparently.

Kanter-Favors would have started anyway. Evans and Williams can't guard David West.

Think about that again and try to put yourself into Corbin's situation

 

[Julie Greengiant]

if available marvin will still start against david west but it's almost a guarantee that kanter will get more minutes against a traditional pacers lineup

 

[Coach Ellis]

I'd sit Marvin and let the heel rest while getting Kanter and Gobert some valuable minutes against one of the top teams in the league. Win or lose, I'd like to see how those two respond to this matchup.

Marvin needs to be traded while his value is high, and that goes out the window if he gets injured.

 

[Spinoza]

I don't see how he can succeed as a musical genre either.

But yea, Corbin is not a smart man.

 

[berat_36]

Kanter is not 6'11", he is 6'9" and struggles against long 4's and really struggles against centers.

In the first place my english isn't very well but i have to say:

Are you kiddin' me? The draft combine doesn't lie.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Enes-Kanter-5168/

6'9.75 without shoes
6'11.25 in shoes

The height in shoes matters and is the officiall height in the nba which is always announced. But in some point you are right. Kanter doesn't possess elite length. His Standing Reach is 9'1.5 which seems average for a nba center, but thats not the biggest problem. In addition to that he lacks elite - athletism too. The combination of both will make sure that Enes will struggle sometimes because in the nba if you want to be a special center you have to be long (Marc Gasol) or athletic (Drummond).

Gasol seems to be equal with Kanter in athletism but he is much taller. Drummond has the same standing reach like Kanter but is much more athletic.

Enes needs to improve his fundamentals and also needs more playing time to gain experience especially at the defensive end. I have no idea why Corbin is humiliating Enes, because its Corbins fault too. In his Rookie-Season he played only 13 minutes and in his sophomore-Season only 15. Thats the result of a lack of playing time and yes karma is a bitch Mr. Corbin.

But Enes seems to play different. I can remember that he was posting up against Bynum or Howard and switching to jumper sometimes. Now he is taking the jumper most of the time?Why?Because of Ty?

This guy should still play 30 Minutes because the jazz are tanking and this season doesn't care anyone. If u see no progress especially on defense at the end of the season u can still trade him. If he plays 30 Minutes per night he is still a 15 / 7 guy and in combination with his rookie-salary he wouldn't be untradeable. But no one would give up a potential lottery pick for him even if he would bring 20 /10 ....

Thought Kanter would be a kind of Al Jefferson with more hustle (better offensive rebounder and boxing out at the D) but the hustle is gone because of the lack of motivation, sadly...

Would love to see the Burke-Favors-Kanter Triangle at the offensive end because they never played 20 or more minutes together...

 

[Spinoza]

One of them was that one, in the other one Jefferson ended up having to guard Asik and Jefferson had to foul Asik. That play made Jefferson chew Kanter out a bit and he kinda just left the game mentally after that.

Here's the video: https://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021300259&GameEventID=130

Looks like Jazz were getting back on defense. Whoever was supposed to guard Brooks completely f'ed up. Jefferson points and tells Kanter to cover Brooks. After the play, Jefferson is talking to Kanter, but doesn't look upset.

 

[♪alt13]

Here's the video: https://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021300259&GameEventID=130

Looks like Jazz were getting back on defense. Whoever was supposed to guard Brooks completely f'ed up. Jefferson points and tells Kanter to cover Brooks. After the play, Jefferson is talking to Kanter, but doesn't look upset.

No he's telling kanter to get the board. Watch it again. Beverly slips in front of Kanter for the board. Jefferson immediately is like wtf

Houston was smart to go at Kanter and pull him out. He is simply not effective out there. Evans and Kanter should have had opposite assignments on that play.

 

[Hekate]

Kanter-Favors would have started anyway. Evans and Williams can't guard David West.

Marvin has started against Ibaka. Other than that you are right.

 

[kabenac]

Kanter will get healthy and be back to old form. He is a beast and he will eat the flesh of his haters....

 

[The Fresh Prince]

but then you got to think ... who would we trade him for? and if we wanted a vetrin center then why not have just kept Big Al? .... I think he can be a star giv'n the right coach and system ... he looks alot like Dirk in dallas years ago ... only differnce is Dirk had a coach that belived in him and gave him a chance .... seriously he has little to no chance with Corbin and co ... neither does Alec Burkes

Hey, well won't you look at that! A fellow comrade seeing eye to eye with TFP.

 

[gregbroncs]

I love how anytime a guy is struggling their fanbois come on here to bitch about how the team and franchise is disrespecting them and is the reason they are struggling. He's stuck here for at least 3 more years so learn to deal with it.
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Kanter is struggling and part of the problem is his effort has been pathetic since coming back from the ankle. His IQ on defense is not up to par yet. And he thinks he must shoot every time he touches the ball. All of these things are correctable and the team needs to work with him on them. Right now Marvin is lighting it up while Kanter struggles. While I still wish they would let Kanter play through it and let the young guys learn to play together more. It's still not worth destroying the confidence of the other 3-4 young guys when one of them is not putting forth the effort.

 

[fishonjazz]

He's stuck here for at least 3 more years so learn to deal with it.

I think kanter is only here for this year and next...... then he is a free agent (restricted)