I want apologies for all the Niang hate on this board!!!


Saint Cy of JFC

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Not really. He was bad enough through the first almost half of the year so far that it shows his 3 pt percentage as in the low 30's when he was in the lows 40's last season, and has been well above 40 in the last 6-8 games or so. But even his recent strong stretch hasn't been enough to recover on his 3 pt percentage. The year before last he was 41%, last year 40%, and this year, including his 7-7 outing last night, he sits at 36%. So no, he hasn't been playing great all year.
He's got 6 less made 3's and 4 less attempts than 2 years ago. Wow.
So here is his 3 pt breakdown this season.

Total for the season so far:

37/101 = 36.6%

But, from the beginning of the season through the end of January:

18/56 = 32.1% (not good at all)

For the month of February:

19/45 = 42.2% (looks pretty good, a nice upswing but see next note)

Now, February MINUS the 7/7 game last night:

12/28 = 31.6%


So overall, not counting the 7/7 from last night:

30/94 = 31.9%

So no, he hasn't been good from 3 this year really at all. That 7/7 game last night brought his totals up to 36, but looking at the much larger sample size for the rest of the year, it does not bode well. Luckily he has a reputation for hitting the 3 that will make teams have to respect him, but so far this year he has just not been good from 3.

Like Bogie, I really hope Niang finds his shot. Without those 2 hitting at their normal 40% clip we are in big trouble when it comes playoff time and the games get much tighter.
Why are we minusing a game exactly? Do really good games not count to stats anymore?
 


NUMBERICA

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The hate for him here has been overboard, and so has the praise at times, frankly.

Lukewarm take: he is and has been a useful and worthy rotation player, but his slot in the rotation is the clearest spot the Jazz could improve
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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People have this weird thing where they think 40% 3pt shooters are going to shoot 40% from 3 every game.

Nah, it doesnt work like that. 40% means he is dangerous and you better check him or a 7/7 game from three is possible. In a small sample size there is going to be variance. If he's at 200 threes on the year and still below 38%, then you can cry about him not having a good shooting year.
 

NUMBERICA

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People have this weird thing where they think 40% 3pt shooters are going to shoot 40% from 3 every game.

Nah, it doesnt work like that. 40% means he is dangerous and you better check him or a 7/7 game from three is possible. In a small sample size there is going to be variance. If he's at 200 threes on the year and still below 38%, then you can cry about him not having a good shooting year.
Except 38% is also good...

As long as a player shoots at or above 35% from 3, they're shooting good shots. And as long as a player has developed a reputation as a good enough shooter, the player doesn't necessarily need to shoot them to be useful in an offense. Niang has built that reputation at this point, and his numbers are going to come up.

Again, he is a useful player and all of the **** he gets shoveled on him has been out of hand.
 

Handlogten's Heros

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People have this weird thing where they think 40% 3pt shooters are going to shoot 40% from 3 every game.

Nah, it doesnt work like that. 40% means he is dangerous and you better check him or a 7/7 game from three is possible. In a small sample size there is going to be variance. If he's at 200 threes on the year and still below 38%, then you can cry about him not having a good shooting year.
I think its much harder for bench players to be consistent too. Its hard to jump into the flow of the game and be on fire.

Bojan has been very hot and cold this year too... can't be selective on which games you do and don't include. Ideally shooters would be a little more even but honestly a bit player making 3/4 one night and 0/4 the next might be better than 1.5/4 most games... if that makes sense. In 15 minutes an 0/4 won't kill you... on the right night the 3/4 may have a huge impact.
 

Thee Idiotic Minivan K

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So here is his 3 pt breakdown this season.

Total for the season so far:

37/101 = 36.6%

But, from the beginning of the season through the end of January:

18/56 = 32.1% (not good at all)

For the month of February:

19/45 = 42.2% (looks pretty good, a nice upswing but see next note)

Now, February MINUS the 7/7 game last night:

12/28 = 31.6%


So overall, not counting the 7/7 from last night:

30/94 = 31.9%

So no, he hasn't been good from 3 this year really at all. That 7/7 game last night brought his totals up to 36, but looking at the much larger sample size for the rest of the year, it does not bode well. Luckily he has a reputation for hitting the 3 that will make teams have to respect him, but so far this year he has just not been good from 3.

Like Bogie, I really hope Niang finds his shot. Without those 2 hitting at their normal 40% clip we are in big trouble when it comes playoff time and the games get much tighter.
That’s the most idiotic excuse I’ve ever heard. He averaged around 6-8 minutes a game the first month. It’s hard to get shots up and maintain an average. I’m sorry you and others can’t candle the fact and truth he’s a good player for this team.
 

fishonjazz

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The hate for him here has been overboard, and so has the praise at times, frankly.

Lukewarm take: he is and has been a useful and worthy rotation player, but his slot in the rotation is the clearest spot the Jazz could improve
This.
He is extremely likeable though no matter what his game/stats are like

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LogGrad98

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He's got 6 less made 3's and 4 less attempts than 2 years ago. Wow.

Why are we minusing a game exactly? Do really good games not count to stats anymore?
Actually no it doesn't. In statistical terms it is an "outlier" and does not count toward the real distribution of the process.
 

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