Is it really that easy to get a gun in the US and kill someone?
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Suck it, OP. Suck on our freedoms.
The freedom to have one of the highest homicide rates in the developed world?
Okay..
♪alt13
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There are 4,000 murders in the US every year that don't involve a firearm. Think about that for a second. Most people can get a gun in the US(including felons albeit illegally) and still a third of murderers are like "nah I'm just going to cut the bitches throat" or "Screw a gun that's no fun. I'm gunna use a hammer." Americans are more likely to resort to violence than other developed nations and it isn't because of guns.
If you want to know what happens in America when we ban stuff look at the drug war, prostitution, prohibition. If you want to know what America would be like if we banned the great equalizer(guns) you only need to compare the cities that ban guns to those that don't. As is done above.
Just did a quick google search and well this largest gun study ever revealed More Guns = More Murders.
https://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/13/2617131/largest-gun-study-guns-murder/
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Does thunkregress do stats in ISIS, Sudan, and Nigeria?
Suck it, OP. Suck on our freedoms.
well, maybe it's the cops, yah know. . . . .community organizers goin' door ta door an' such. . . .
A lot of countries don't take the stats seriously. Really. Mexicans use knives a lot more, but who cares, nobody's countin'. Bet there's some neighborhoods in every human trafficking mecca, like Thailand, where nobody knows or counts.
Yeah but the graph I showed earlier only lists developed countries... so I can only assume that they DO take the compilation of homicide rates pretty seriously.
mellow
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Correlation is not causation. I think a relationship could also be shown between cheap beer and murder, and after we tossed all the natty light into the landfill we would still be scratching our heads wondering why there are still murders.
To me the issue is never about the gun, the knife, the bat, the tank or the helicopter used, it is the conditions that led a human to conclude in his mind and heart that killing another human was okay. When someone finally does a study that uncovers the motivations and conditions that led to a murder then we can begin to talk about it.
However, I won't hold my breath for such a study and discussion, because gun control has been demarcated as a political battleground with the elected office as the prize. The sides and talking points are already determined and neither side really wants to solve the issue or move from their trench.
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♪alt13
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Read it more carefully. What it says is more guns= More gun murders. Which is of course a given. They can't make the claim that More guns=More total murders because it doesn't hold up. We won't automatically have less total murders if we have less gun murders. Here is a link to a Harvard study about that question. https://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
If you read it you will see that the causes for violence aren't guns. That banning guns doesn't save lives.
Further even if it would save lives(it wouldn't) I still would be against a ban. We know unequivocally that we could save lives by banning motorcycles. An accident on a motorcycle is 26 times more likely to be fatal. That does not mean that we should ban motorcycles.
Number of motorcycle deaths in 2012 was 4,957.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/us-motorcycle-deaths-declined-in-2013/2014/05/05/8155f45e-d228-11e3-9e25-188ebe1fa93b_story.html