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Is Obama a Natural Born US Citizen?

Is Obama A Natural Born US Citizen?

  • No, I'm a crazy *** birther

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Yes, I'm a blind follower

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Maybe, but he's hiding something.

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Who gives a rat's ***

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Whatever Kicky says

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
I have no idea as I don't know what's in the book. That being said, it would have to be incredibly damning evidence as it seems many people are willing to give Obama a pass on the issue of eligibility. Several people here have said that the Constitution shouldn't matter in this regard as they would allow a foreign born person to be elected president.

Franklin: See this was my point. Not everyone is treating those as two separate debates. This is why I asked a clarification question.

Marcus: We'll ask this a different way. Do you believe Obama is ineligible to be president even after publication of the long-form birth certificate?
 
Franklin: See this was my point. Not everyone is treating those as two separate debates. This is why I asked a clarification question.

Marcus: We'll ask this a different way. Do you believe Obama is ineligible to be president even after publication of the long-form birth certificate?

Technically? Yes. As his father was not an American citizen Obama would have had dual citizenship. I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him. Do I think he should be removed from office based on just this? No.
 
Technically? Yes. As his father was not an American citizen Obama would have had dual citizenship. I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him.

Chester Arthur and James Buchanan both had dual citizenship (Ireland and England respectively, I believe)
 
Technically? Yes. As his father was not an American citizen Obama would have had dual citizenship. I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him. Do I think he should be removed from office based on just this? No.

https://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

To another point: Let's say that tomorrow the Ivory Coast passes the following law: "Everyone in the world, regardless of place of birth or parentage, is a citizen of the Ivory Coast at birth. This provision is applicable retroactively to all persons born after January 1, 1900." Would it be your position that because every American citizen now holds dual citizenship (from the perspective of the Ivory Coast) that no one is eligible to be President?

Do you believe that James Buchanan and Chester A. Arthur were ineligible to be president as the sons of Irish immigrants for whom Britain claimed them as citizens?
 
Chester Arthur and James Buchanan both had dual citizenship (Ireland and England respectively, I believe)

You beat me to this one, so I'll add a little more flavor: Arthur's opponents tried to bring him down by asserting he was actually born in Canada instead of Vermont as his birth certificate claimed. There are no parallels whatsoever.
 
I almost always follow this lecture with stuff that was happening before and after Hitler in Australia (settlers vs. Aboriginals).
Hitler was Austrian, not Australian, you doofus. And he had nothing to do with the treatment of Aboriginals.
 
And you'd be wrong.

I thought that was the whole reason that the term "natural born" is even in the Constitution. So as to prevent anyone that may have dual allegiances or strong allegiances to foreign countries that may interfere with their ability to lead the US. The term "natural born" is used to mean a singular allegiance to one and only one nation. Dual citizenship contradicts this.
 
I thought that was the whole reason that the term "natural born" is even in the Constitution. So as to prevent anyone that may have dual allegiances or strong allegiances to foreign countries that may interfere with their ability to lead the US. The term "natural born" is used to mean a singular allegiance to one and only one nation. Dual citizenship contradicts this.

What is the basis for this interpretation? Is it your own ***?

How does your interpretation interact with the first seven Presidents (Washington through Jackson), all of whom were born in a British colony as British citizens? Is it your contention that the founding fathers all meant to prevent themselves from being Presidents?
 
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