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Islamists kill 12 people in France during attack on newspaper office.

Jamezz said:
And rightfully so, but he won't kill you, and if he does then HE will face the consequences. I agree that there's responsibility behind your actions while exercising your freedom of speech, but so what's next, a Comic Watch Force? This is beyond ridiculous.
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I agree it's beyond ridiculous. But we know that the hornets nest of Islamist extremists is out there and that they are very very irrational and violent when it comes to religion.
So making fun of islams prophet is a risk. Maybe a risk that would be better off not taken.
It's extremely stupid that there are people out there that can get so offended by a silly cartoon to the point of murdering a bunch of innocent people. Unfortunately those people are out there. Hopefully they (violent murdering extremists) all die
 
Why is "Islamist" a denigration? And what is it a denigration of? It's a word with very specific meaning that as used in the context of this thread is arguably pretty accurate.

Islamist does not mean Muslim. It means a proponent/activist for reordering of government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam(Sharia law). Not all Muslim people are Islamists.
 
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fishonjazz said:
I agree it's beyond ridiculous. But we know that the hornets nest of Islamist extremists is out there and that they are very very irrational and violent when it comes to religion.
So making fun of islams prophet is a risk. Maybe a risk that would be better off not taken.
It's extremely stupid that there are people out there that can get so offended by a silly cartoon to the point of murdering a bunch of innocent people. Unfortunately those people are out there. Hopefully they (violent murdering extremists) all die
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This.

Guys, it's called common sense. If you're this magazine, I guess you make your money from trashy shock effect cartoons. But you know your country has a strong minority of practicing muslims. You know that some are radical. You know radical Islam doesn't like the west. You know drawing Mohammad pisses them off.

What can be gained by this?

It's called common sense... Which somehow many people don't have.

Don't light the powder keg and then claim you had "free speech."

Show some tolerance towards others. Tolerance needs to go both ways here.

Absolutely NOTHING is gained by drawing Mohammad in that manner. Did they deserve to be shot at? No. But did they provoke a response? Absolutely. Now they act as if they're innocent victims. No they're not. Now we have cartoon writers becoming more emboldened and offensive. While muslims feel more and more disrespected. The "us" against the world feeling becomes stronger on both sides.

This isn't going to contribute to peace.

Again, NOTHING, is gained by drawing Mohammad in that manner. Show some tolerance and respect for those in that religion. Especially towards those who are a tad angry and radical.
 
Nothing is gained? Absolutely nothing?? Some people feel strongly about the principle that you must never stop picking away at the white walls of moral extremism. You've characterized the magazine very poorly (I'm shocked). They were easily twice as cunning and interesting as you on your best day. And now you're spewing your righteous pride in your own sense of the matter on the internet, while graves are still fresh. You're an amazing specimen. Let this be sad and horrible for a little while, before you revert back to being a ******.
 
The Thriller said:
This.

Absolutely NOTHING is gained by drawing Mohammad in that manner.
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Well the cartoons made me and other normal people laugh our asses off, and the gift of laughter is a beautiful thing. I thank Charlie Hebdo for that

Religion should be mocked and ridiculed constantly, it is the biggest joke there is

I encourage more people to draw cartoons of the pedophile mohammad
 
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I am absolutely shocked with the disgusting ways people are excusing violence here. Everything is gained by allowing all kinds of dumb and smart ideas to be expressed without threat of violence. EVERYTHING! Freedom of speech and expression is one of the foundations of modern society.

What in fact you are saying is - if there are enough people willing to kill you for something you want to say, you should shut up or you'd be welcoming what's coming to you. In essence this is a license to silence people through threats and fear. Shameful!
 
Yell42 said:
I am absolutely shocked that religion has made people do inhumane things

That hardly ever happens
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Everything has made people do inhuman things, not just religion. During the french revolution people will killing people in the name of freedom. Innocent people.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
Everything has made people do inhuman things, not just religion. During the french revolution people will killing people in the name of freedom. Innocent people.
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Killing in the name of the State, or in an effort to capture the State

VERSUS

Killing in the name of a State religion (examples of global religion birthed by States: Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.)


You're right to see little/zero distinction.
 
NAOS said:
Killing in the name of the State, or in an effort to capture the State

VERSUS

Killing in the name of a State religion (examples of global religion birthed by States: Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.)


You're right to see little/zero distinction.
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Ever heard of the guillotine? It was used to kill innocent people who had nothing to do with the state (mixed in with the "corrupt people"). They weren't killed until after the capturing of the state, people who had nothing to do with running the states previous regime. Unless you think freedom is bad than just because something is killed in the name of it doesn't mean anything.
 
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