Israel-Hamas War
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Al-O-Meter
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I can see you are committed to viewing current events through the lens of your religious beliefs.
In seeing the type of information in your social media feed as posted above, I have a question. The same Instagram user you seem to resonate with posted a clip calling homosexuality an “affliction” and said the only way for them to be right with God was to abstain. In your steadfast religious view, do you believe a homosexual who does not abstain from homosexuality should be thrown off buildings as is common in the Gaza Strip?
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Al-O-Meter
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With people who believe as you and Unborne Gore do, that is sage advice. It is better to stay silent and have people suspect than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Religious? That's a laugh.
Understanding what the word "Zion" means is not necessarily a religious matter. But if you don't know what that word means, how could you possibly speak to this topic with any authenticity at all?
Jacob became Israel for a reason, after all. Not just after buying a birthright with a bowl of oatmeal.
If your lens is not founded on apprehending these scriptural narratives, then why tf should anyone on planet earth ever engage with you on this matter?
I didn't post that clip as any kind of advertisement for Islam, or that particular poster. I posted it because it shows the humanity of the soldier, and also shows that she recognizes the humanity of her victim.
You are simply projecting your own political agenda. But the soldier? That kind of post-traumatic dehumanization is real.
This is precisely why a discussion about Abraham, his covenant, and the nations he fathered is imperative to this discussion. This is why the term "Zion" must be understood whether you are religious or not. Israeli policy is promulgated unmistakably as Zionism. To divorce the discussion from these terms is callous and ignorant.
Al-O-Meter
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Nazis don’t like engaging with me on this matter. I think the concept of a thing being owed to a people because of their blood is gross.
I don't agree with AI on the Palestinian national movement having a strong tie to Nazism (I see WWI as setting the path for our current road and WWII just being another step).
I also don't vibe with Gore's focus on the importance of the religious components of Zionism. Zionism is just not different enough from any other large movement of people for me to care about the religious thinking. People moved and settled for better opportunities for them and their children, motives past that are superficial for the vast majority.
I also don't vibe with Gore's focus on the importance of the religious components of Zionism. Zionism is just not different enough from any other large movement of people for me to care about the religious thinking. People moved and settled for better opportunities for them and their children, motives past that are superficial for the vast majority.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Strange that you would say such a thing while supporting a regime that has become Nazi-like in its policies, and that absolutely operates as a chosen people because of their blood.
Al-O-Meter
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That is such garbage. Israel is an inclusive nation with a sizable number of their citizens being of Arab descent. There are Palestinians on their Supreme Court and in their Legislature. One of the most prominent political parties in Israel is Balad, which is an Arab party that advocates for Arabs in Israel.
The Israeli government is taking care of their citizens, including their Arab citizens, because that is what a government is supposed to do. That interview of a traumatized Jewish soldier is so instructive, but you completely missed it. You will never see the reverse. You will never see a Palestinian who took part in the October 7 rapes and murders show that same sort of trauma. Instead the Palestinians celebrated.
You do not see the IDF building military infrastructure under hospitals. Hamas would see that target as a two-for-one bonus. Kindergartens in Israel put on school shows that dress the 5-year-old students as talking trees and forest animals while Gaza kindergartens put on school shows about stabbing and shooting Jews.
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Israel isn’t obsessed with bloodlines. You are. Israeli government officials don’t go on and on about religious justifications. You do. Half of what you say is projection and the other half is just plain wrong. The only real way forward is to stop being obsessed with the past.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Here's a good 40 minute summary of recent history on this topic:
View: https://youtu.be/nUfWTHbCS78?feature=shared
View: https://youtu.be/nUfWTHbCS78?feature=shared