Israel-Hamas War
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Israel shooting Palestinian teenage boys in the genitals, say doctors in Gaza
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A international doctor working in the besieged Gaza Strip has told Channel 4 News that he is treating a disturbing number of injuries linked to Israeli-run so-called aid distribution points, which have been condemned as death traps.
Speaking from a Gaza hospital, the doctor said he and his colleagues have observed a troubling pattern: multiple patients, in particular teenage boys, are arriving with gunshot wounds to the same part of the body.
Most recently, teenage boys are arriving in the hospitals all shot in the *********, he said.
The remarks add to growing reports that areas near these "aid" sites - ostensibly set up to provide relief - have become zones of deliberate targeting Palestinians.
There was a segment on 60 Minutes last week regarding this. An American ex-military who worked at the aid site describing American contractors and IDF forces murdering people.
Red
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Our State Dept. spokesperson. Only the best people. Wow. Actual gibberish.
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Was she referring to Trump at the end when she said, "and I adore him"? I understood her message too but it could have been more clear. Basically she said to check the website otherwise it's opinion.
Red
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No, she’s was talking about a diplomat, forget which one, but she loves him. I listened twice more, last minute I still have a tough time. Not sure what “all things considered” is that allowed it to be a good job anyway.
Red
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Killing journalists deliberately, because they shine a light on genecide committed by Israel’s government.
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Hundreds protest Gaza media coverage, murder of Al Jazeera journalists
Global protests target Israel and media outlets who have ‘made excuses’ after killing of four Al Jazeera staff in Gaza.
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Ex-Israeli intelligence chief said 50 Palestinians must die for every 7 October victim
‘It does not matter if they are children,’ said Aharon Haliva in recorded comments calling the death toll ‘necessary’
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The Israeli general who headed military intelligence on 7 October 2023 has said 50 Palestinians must die for every person killed that day and “it does not matter now if they are children”, in recordings broadcast by Israel’s Channel 12 TV station.
Aharon Haliva said the toll in Gaza, which he put at more than 50,000 dead, was “necessary” as a “message to future generations” of Palestinians.
“They need a Nakba every now and then to feel the price,” he added, referring to the mass expulsion of more than 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and lands after the creation of Israel in 1948. Nakba means catastrophe in Arabic.
Much of Israel’s leadership and media has used genocidal rhetoric about Palestinians since Hamas’s 7 October attacks, including describing them as “human animals”, saying there are “no innocents” in Gaza and calling for Gaza’s total destruction and its ethnic cleansing.
However, Haliva’s description of a campaign of mass killing including children was an unusually direct description of collective punishment of civilians, which is illegal under international law.
Haliva, who stepped down from his position in April 2024, also appeared to endorse the casualty figures compiled by health authorities in Gaza, which Israeli officials regularly attack as propaganda. They have proved reliable in past conflicts.
Channel 12 said the undated conversations were recorded “in recent months”. The Gaza health ministry’s toll for those killed by Israeli attacks passed 50,000 in March and has recently climbed above 60,000.
Israel’s most recent published data on the war put the number of militants killed at about 20,000, so Haliva would have been aware that even by his country’s own count most of the Palestinians killed were civilians.
“The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations,” he said in the broadcast comments. “For everything that happened on October 7th, for every person on October 7, 50 Palestinians must die. It doesn’t matter now if they are children.”
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Holocaust survivors’ desperate plea to stop starvation as Gaza famine declared
'As survivors of the Holocaust and Jews who escaped the Nazis we cannot remain silent as hunger and deprivation threaten the lives of civilians in Gaza,' signatories say
As survivors of the Holocaust and Jews who escaped the Nazis we cannot remain silent as hunger and deprivation threaten the lives of civilians in Gaza. We are not comparing Israel’s action in Gaza to the Nazi gas chambers. The murders of October 7th, when Jews were slaughtered in the land that promised refuge, horrified us and we understand Israel’s grief.
We condemn Hamas for its genocidal goals, its taking of hostages, and its contempt for both Palestinian and Jewish lives. But our anger should not lead us to dehumanize those we fear, as we know where that can lead. Every human life—Jewish, Palestinian, or any other—has equal value. We support Israel’s right to defend its people. But that defence must not result in the slow death of Palestinian children from hunger. We know too well what it means to feel hunger, watch the young grow thin and weak and to see neighbours waste away.
We join with the Arab League and many governments in calling on Hamas to release all hostages immediately, to stop using civilians as shields and diverting aid. Only when its tyrannical rule over Gaza ends can Israelis and Palestinians live in safety. But what if, in the course of trying to remove Hamas, the trauma of hunger and war causes the next generation to demand revenge? It would be a pyrrhic victory for Israel. We see there are double standards in the World. A man-made famine is already underway in Sudan. As black Africans perish it causes no global outrage and the dead there are not even counted, while Israel’s critics welcome those responsible as statesmen. But being held to a higher moral standard should be seen as a duty and honour, not a burden.
We understand why trust between Israel and UN agencies in Gaza has been broken. But we implore all parties not to allow this to stand in the way of finding an urgent solution to feed people. Today, the aid that enters Gaza is far too little. It is the weakest - children, the elderly, the disabled - who are most unable to reach help. We call on everyone with power over the flow of food, water, medicine, and fuel into the Gaza Strip to act immediately and decisively to prevent famine and to protect civilians. We ask donor governments to fully fund the response and support independent monitoring so that aid reaches civilians swiftly.
We take seriously as Jews the responsibility of Tikkun Olam , repairing the world. Yet as peace today seems further away than ever, we recall that some of us survived the Shoah because, even in the darkest of times, both neighbours and strangers who could have turned away from us chose instead to act from conscience. From the pain of October 7th we thank those Israeli Arabs who were among the first to risk their lives to rescue Jews during the pogrom. We draw hope from those Israelis and Palestinians now engaged in the vital work of community peacebuilding – especially those who choose this path despite losing loved ones on or since October 7th. These role models prove that coexistence is possible. They understand that the battle line for peace is not between two peoples, but between extremism and humanity.
For the sake of our shared humanity, we implore all those responsible to feed the vulnerable and prevent the starvation of Palestinians in Gaza. If you will not feed the hungry for any other reason, do it in our name. It is the lowest standard to which any of us should expect to be held.
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Pro-Palestine protesters fill the streets in cities and towns across Australia after Gaza famine declaration
‘The difference between my kids and those kids in Palestine is geography,’ one attendee says, as thousands turn out for marches
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Another day of national protest.
Todays news
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Iran has been behind a couple of local fire bombings. Funnily enough the Israeli lobby who used these incidents to press their political aims have been strangely silent on the governments decisive action.
Iranian ambassador expelled over ‘credible intelligence’ Iran directed antisemitic attacks on Australian soil
Australia’s spy agency finds Iran behind incidents including arson attack on Adass Israel Synagogue in Melbourne
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Iran has been behind a couple of local fire bombings. Funnily enough the Israeli lobby who used these incidents to press their political aims have been strangely silent on the governments decisive action.
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50% of the American public now believes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
poll.qu.edu
This is the highest level of opposition and lowest level of support for the United States sending more military aid to Israel since Quinnipiac University first asked this question of registered voters on November 2, 2023, in the wake of the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, 2023.
In today's poll, Democrats (75 - 18 percent) and independents (66 - 27 percent) oppose sending more military aid to Israel for their efforts in the war with Hamas, while Republicans (56 - 37 percent) support it.
Voters were asked whether their sympathies lie more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians based on what they know about the situation in the Middle East. Thirty-seven percent of voters say the Palestinians, while 36 percent say the Israelis, and 27 percent did not offer an opinion.
This is an all-time high for the Palestinians and an all-time low for the Israelis since the Quinnipiac University Poll began asking this question of registered voters in December 2001.
Fifty percent of voters think Israel is committing genocide based on what they know about the situation in Gaza, while 35 percent do not think Israel is committing genocide and 15 percent did not offer an opinion.
Democrats (77 - 11 percent) and independents (51 - 34 percent) think Israel is committing genocide, while Republicans (64 - 20 percent) do not think Israel is committing genocide.
Majority Of Voters Oppose Deploying National Guard To D.C., Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Support Drops For U.S. Military Aid To Israel As 50% Think Israel Is Committing Genocide In Gaza | Quinnipiac University Poll
"Posting the National Guard in D.C. to fight local crime gets faint support, with independent voters giving the deployment a big thumbs down," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy.
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ISRAEL - HAMAS - GAZA
Six in 10 voters (60 percent) oppose the United States sending more military aid to Israel for their efforts in the war with Hamas, while 32 percent support it.This is the highest level of opposition and lowest level of support for the United States sending more military aid to Israel since Quinnipiac University first asked this question of registered voters on November 2, 2023, in the wake of the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, 2023.
In today's poll, Democrats (75 - 18 percent) and independents (66 - 27 percent) oppose sending more military aid to Israel for their efforts in the war with Hamas, while Republicans (56 - 37 percent) support it.
Voters were asked whether their sympathies lie more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians based on what they know about the situation in the Middle East. Thirty-seven percent of voters say the Palestinians, while 36 percent say the Israelis, and 27 percent did not offer an opinion.
This is an all-time high for the Palestinians and an all-time low for the Israelis since the Quinnipiac University Poll began asking this question of registered voters in December 2001.
Fifty percent of voters think Israel is committing genocide based on what they know about the situation in Gaza, while 35 percent do not think Israel is committing genocide and 15 percent did not offer an opinion.
Democrats (77 - 11 percent) and independents (51 - 34 percent) think Israel is committing genocide, while Republicans (64 - 20 percent) do not think Israel is committing genocide.