You're no fun.
Its Kanter, D-Will2.0, and Knight in no particular order
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You're no fun.
BENTLEY
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Yes I am. I am tons of fun. I am a rockin good time!!!
Convinced? or are we once again at an impasse?
You make some compelling arguments, but I can't help being left unsatisfied...kind of how I feel after watching Kanter highlights. Zing! No, in all seriousness I think they're both excellent prospects. The difference is that Kanter is a can't pass up prospect because of his versatility and size where as Knight is a guy that has all the right ideas and tangibles, but needs to improve upon his execution and fundamentals, which is a learning process that will take a year or two. I don't know if he'll ever be an All-Star with the PG's that are in the league now, which is something I could argue for with Kanter, but we don't need him to be if we've got All-Star quality players in the front court. If our intentions are to move one of the bigs (preferably Sap) then I say go for it and see if he can eventually elapse Al, otherwise get Knight by either drafting him at 3 or trading back to 5 or 6.
BENTLEY
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Yeah, you don't draft Kanter and keep the frontcourt logjam as is. Someone will have to get traded, and I'm also thinking it's most likely Sap. I love the guy but he's already becoming the odd man out. And he has value in the league so the Jazz should be able to pull in some decent assets.
Kanter and Knight are probably equal at their respective positions. It's the fact that Kanter plays a premium position that makes you have to go with him at 3.
I'd probably be all over Knight if he could be had at 12. but that won't happen.
BENTLEY
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I love Dwill2. I love his cockiness. It's not like he didn't earn it - never projected as a top h.s. prospect and then playing with that chip on his shoulder. You gotta love how he's progressed. As far as him at the 3, I'm becoming more convinced that whatever difficulties he might have there he'll be determined to work out. The guy's got incredible drive and I love it.
I'm thrilled with whoever falls to pick 3.
Stifle Tower
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Yes, I have also thought of that and it wouldn't be a bad outcome. Then Cleveland takes Knight at #4. Cavs are sitting pretty. I'm happy for that franchise; they deserved to get a break after going through the "Decision" debacle. But if Williams goes #1, then I think Minnesota would trade their pick. They could drop down a couple of positions, pick up another asset and still come away with a good non-PG. If I were a betting man, I'd say Irving and Willaims still go 1-2, in some order, leaving KOC to choose between Kanter and Knight. Given that Kanter is not a true center and we already have two of those in Jefferson and Favors (and even Okur), I think the choice for Utah will be Knight. Harris has a couple more years left; Watson is a FA and Price...well, he's a better cheerleader than player. So there's a definite need to develop a good, young PG. And #12 should net a decent SF (I'm hoping Singleton).
Stifle Tower
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Last I checked the message boards don't determine picks. Had that been the case, the Jazz would have NEVER ended up with Hayward.
If Knight (or Kanter) are impressive in workouts, Cavs could very well determine they'd be better off having Williams/Knight (or Kanter) over Irving/Vesely. I think Irving WILL go #1, but he's no Derrick Rose or John Wall. He's played, what, about 11 college games?
If Knight (or Kanter) are impressive in workouts, Cavs could very well determine they'd be better off having Williams/Knight (or Kanter) over Irving/Vesely. I think Irving WILL go #1, but he's no Derrick Rose or John Wall. He's played, what, about 11 college games?
I also wouldn't be stunned if Cleveland passed on Kyrie at #1.
Like others have said, they need a complete overhaul. They need to come out of this draft with the best package possible out of the #1 and #4 picks.
I think Irving is the safe pick at #1, and will be a very good PG in the NBA for a long time. However, I think Williams could be a monster, and has more superstar potential.
Both of these guys are likely franchise cornerstones. I think Cleveland would be wise to consider other players' workouts. If Cleveland falls in love with Brandon Knight, and thinks a) he's their PG and b) will be there at 4, I could see them going Williams #1. Conversely, if they love one of the foreign bigs and want to go big at #4, Irving makes a lot of sense at #1.
I predict Kyrie goes #1, but it's possible he slips. Past #2 though? I doubt it. Yes Minny has a glut of PG's, but four mediocre PG's (...+ Rubio) doesn't add up to one great one. Who knows with Kahn, though...maybe he falls in love with Kanter.
Like others have said, they need a complete overhaul. They need to come out of this draft with the best package possible out of the #1 and #4 picks.
I think Irving is the safe pick at #1, and will be a very good PG in the NBA for a long time. However, I think Williams could be a monster, and has more superstar potential.
Both of these guys are likely franchise cornerstones. I think Cleveland would be wise to consider other players' workouts. If Cleveland falls in love with Brandon Knight, and thinks a) he's their PG and b) will be there at 4, I could see them going Williams #1. Conversely, if they love one of the foreign bigs and want to go big at #4, Irving makes a lot of sense at #1.
I predict Kyrie goes #1, but it's possible he slips. Past #2 though? I doubt it. Yes Minny has a glut of PG's, but four mediocre PG's (...+ Rubio) doesn't add up to one great one. Who knows with Kahn, though...maybe he falls in love with Kanter.
SojoDave
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This draft really blows. Kyring Irving has more body fat than the pillsbury doughboy. DWill is an amazing athlete, but can he play SF? Kanter shows great hands, great potential, but we haven't seen this guy play a real game in a year. Knight has potential, but may not be ready for two years and he is as skinny as POW. This could be the worst draft EVVVVEEEERRRR!