I would love to see the master chess player direct this team.. but I have resigned myself to the fact I'll never see it.
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I would love to see the master chess player direct this team.. but I have resigned myself to the fact I'll never see it.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Who is Zakery Wright?
damn auto-correct..
Yep. What I said.
Litany
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Which is why I still like Hayward but I can't deny that it does make me like less.
He could have signed for 12 million (overpay imo) and gotten this behind him but he wanted to pound his chest for the POSSIBILITY at another 2-4 Million after taxes.
Bad move IMO. Very bad one. I say trade him of you get a chance at a top 5 pick in 2014.
Bobcats are trying to win. Trade him there for their unprotected pick.
I think talk about trading him is premature. We have not even seen him play out more then 1 game as a main focal point of the team. Lets give it a month or two before we start in on that.
I don't get holding this against Hayward. This is a situation that will work itself out. No one was injured here.
He either earns the money he wants and gets it, hopefully from us at that point or,
He doesn't deserve the money he wants but some team gives it to him anyway or,
It becomes clear to him and the rest of the NBA that what the Jazz offered was about right and he takes an offer similar to what we offered him.
The good news is that the Jazz didn't act like a desperate old maid for once. No knock on Hayward.
He either earns the money he wants and gets it, hopefully from us at that point or,
He doesn't deserve the money he wants but some team gives it to him anyway or,
It becomes clear to him and the rest of the NBA that what the Jazz offered was about right and he takes an offer similar to what we offered him.
The good news is that the Jazz didn't act like a desperate old maid for once. No knock on Hayward.
Litany
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I'm holding it against him because he wasn't reasonable and has an overinflated sense of his worth and ultimately gave the finger to the Jazz for a couple million. The jazz were more than generous in their offer and he knew they had room to pay him more and he just said FU.
I'm not angry more disappointed. He could have put this behind him and gotten a good deal based on all reports but he chose not to and now he's the one at risk and its going to be a distraction all season.
Maybe another thing in disappointed in is we can't use him in draft night trades if we wanted to
I'd do that all day. Nothing against Hayward.
I can't say much more than Gameface, who has more or less nailed it with his posts. I see this move by Hayward as an opportunity to show that he can perform at the highest level with even more pressure on him. We saw how he wilted with his post season performance. We saw how he had extreme focus problems with his jump shot in his first two years on the team when he shot an egregiously low three point percentage. We've rarely seen him show that he is a clutch performer in the NBA.
If Hayward kills it and still plays with his teammates, then he has succeeded in a high pressure situation. Thus he deserves big money. If he wilts again, then we know really what kind of player he is. This is Hayward's chance to earn his money. I feel that his weaknesses will be exposed, and we will sign him for about 11 million per...just a guess. We can't get on Hayward too bad since he is listening to his agent, whom he hired to handle this, and Hayward has never done this before, so let's cut him a little slack...but just a little.
If Hayward kills it and still plays with his teammates, then he has succeeded in a high pressure situation. Thus he deserves big money. If he wilts again, then we know really what kind of player he is. This is Hayward's chance to earn his money. I feel that his weaknesses will be exposed, and we will sign him for about 11 million per...just a guess. We can't get on Hayward too bad since he is listening to his agent, whom he hired to handle this, and Hayward has never done this before, so let's cut him a little slack...but just a little.
Now that I'm thinking about it, he has a history of being incredibly fickle. His first car was a Honda Accord. So I'm really not all that surprised he's trying so hard for more money.